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What is it like driving a bull wagon?????

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by cowboy385, Dec 17, 2007.

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  1. Dec 18, 2007 #11
    cowboy385

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    I have talked to at least 10 companies in TN KY and Virginia all the company said that I had to fudge my log books because they all run to oklahoma and it is at least a 15 hour drive. you can't stop and rest with a load of cattle on the trailer. I would love to haul cattle and have farmed all my life but I am thinking about telling them that I won't do it and go to a freight company and no I won't be making that thousand to two thousand a week but I will be legal.
     
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  3. Dec 18, 2007 #12
    bullhaulerswife

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    Oh, I get what they are talking about. THEY don't want you stopping because of shrinkage. Yeah, that makes sense. On a 600 mile run you can easily loose the weight of two fats just from stress on them during transit. And they must be paying by the hundred weight, vs by the mile. Even if they are paid by the mile, they can get docked for shrinkage.

    My husband is an Owner / Operator, so he works for himself. He runs for a broker that finds the loads for him. But he has very strict instructions with the broker, nothing over 600 miles. He will not do what some of the bullhaulers will do for the long miles. He makes sure that he gets his 10 before he takes another load.
     
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  4. Dec 18, 2007 #13
    Texasgordo

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    Listen to the older drivers on how to load it correctly and how to handle a top-heavy trailer. Take it slow when you make a turn or going through a sharp curve. Also try to avoid sudden stops because you will end up buying a dead cow. Just be careful and pay attention to what ur doing and you'll be ok.
     
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  5. Dec 21, 2007 #14
    jugg

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    hey bullhaulerswife, ask your hubby if he has ever picked up in southwest iowa farms yet.. some old farmers back home when we lived there...mckee farms, bruce farms, and phelps farms.. we use to haul alot for the 3 local farmers.. usually we hit omaho beef packin, ibp in coucil bluffs, kansas city mo, and wichita or topeka... i would have to go to just to keep him awake cause they would run from malvern iowa to wichita, back to back runs..
     
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  7. Dec 21, 2007 #15
    Johnny99

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    Tankers, swinging meat and livestock. Noob's beware.
     
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  8. Dec 21, 2007 #16
    Brickman

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    I'm not going to tell him how to cheat on his logs. He'll learn that soon enough, HOW EVER its funny to see the comments from those that have never hauled cattle.


    I can tell you from experience that for the MOST PART almost all of the ranchers do not care in the slightest that you have HOS and weight laws to worry about. All they care about is when their cattle will be delivered. Now working with feedlots that could be a little different, I don't have much experience in hauling for them. I have seen ranchers knowingly load 20,000 to 30,000 lbs over weight and then tell the driver to just go around the scales. I've also seen when a rancher is told that some thing can't be done on the HOS, his comment will be then I'll find some one that will.
    There will be massive pressure to run illegal on the logs, and then the dispatch and ranchers will deny all knowledge of the drivers illegal activities. Those that haven't done it can be naive if they want to, it doesn't change the real life reality at the loading chute on the ranch.

    Bullhaulerswife's husband is on a little different run than many, with his runs being 550 miles or less, he should be able to make his run and then take the required time off.
     
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  9. Dec 21, 2007 #17
    jugg

    jugg Light Load Member

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    boy oh boy oh boy are you right brickman them farmers could care a less..i remember they would pack them cattle pots full... they would zap them. farmer would tell them room for 5 more in that compartment.. then load more... all they worried about is how many they can get in there.. the more they are packed in the less they will move around and lose weight.... logg on the other hand... lol when dad was hooked up with best and shoeman transfere in council bluffs they did not run logs... them O/O knew there way around the scale houses...:biggrin_255:
    always thought it was cool when they would be 8 or 9 trucks in a row and run 80 to 90 and shut the lights off and run the scale house.... back in the early 80's of coarse...
     
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  10. Dec 22, 2007 #18
    bullhaulerswife

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    He said that he has not hauled from any of those ranches. But they aren't far from where we live, so chances are, eventually he will. He has taken some runs into Omaha Beef. But No IBP yet. He used to load at IBP when he was running reefer, so he knows that plant well. LOL

    You are so right Brickman. But, you have to remember back when you gave me some great advice, and I passed it on. LOL His broker is fully aware that he will NOT violate any laws for anyone. We even bought the overweight permits, necessary to let him run legal on the interstate. And he has never done a Montana Run. Because those haul all the way back here. As an O/O when you are negotiating, you start at the beginning, letting the broker know what you will and will not do. Some brokers could care less, but this one, lucky for us, will listen and only keeps him legal.
     
    bullhaulerswife, Dec 22, 2007
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  11. Dec 22, 2007 #19
    jugg

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    those 3 ranchers are on highway 34 between malvern iowa nd emerson iowa... where do you guy live?
     
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  12. Dec 22, 2007 #20
    bullhaulerswife

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    We are about 30 miles NW of Omaha.
     
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