RATES IN CA in --------->>>>>> 2014

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Rich_Trucking, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    Why are they losing support from the green community?
     
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  3. gerardo1961

    gerardo1961 Road Train Member

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    I think the rates don't go up,i think goes more cheaper,more trucks less freight come inside(shipsize for the panamacanal),i read something like 25:/: less freight come to cali.
     
  4. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    For one, CARB is not doing the far left things they want hem to do (ok, 1point for CARB). Then when all the fraud came out, Sierra Club put up a person to replace the disgraced scientist. And CARB kept him on and made some negative comments about " those people."

    it is a huge circus.
     
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  5. BoyWander

    BoyWander Road Train Member

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    I'd just as soon like to see all the factories leave CA and come east. Screw 'em.

    Also, more and more businesses are stopping to have their stuff made in China and shipper here to the west coast, and I think this trend will continue, so I think the west coast will continue to have less freight coming out. I see rates rising to go to CA, but will decrease in proportion to the less freight coming out of there. All in all, I wouldn't think there would be any change in overall margins going there and coming back.
     
  6. fireba11

    fireba11 Heavy Load Member

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    I see rates going up for us drivers who pull a platform trailer because so many folks will refuse to upgrade their equipment. At the same time I look for rates in the midwest to drop because of the added capacity.

    I was told during CABS class that here at Landstar the average year of a truck is 2002. I am thinking that this should open up more freight for those who upgrade equipment to run in California.
     
  7. kw600

    kw600 Road Train Member

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    If rates DO go up can o/o leased to bigger companies expect a "raise"? Or would tge company keep more and pay the o/o the same amount? Id imagine a lot of po'd owner operator as tge world insnt fair and noone can get along.(thinking the larger company would pay the driver same-no raise):biggrin_25513:
     
  8. GuysLady

    GuysLady Trucker Forum STAFF

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    Speaking from the perspective of someone very familiar with trucking in Cali, your idea isn't advisable. Too many of the existing companies have already "put it all on the line". They know they are still gonna have to keep moving, so they already have the CARB compliant equipment. Rates will go up temporarily, while the market adjusts to any lost carriers, but within a month or two, these smaller companies will be undercutting each other just to try to make truck payments, and driving rates DOWN...
     
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  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Of course not. Most of them don't have a clue about rates anyways.
     
  10. kw600

    kw600 Road Train Member

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    Are you implying something :-/
     
  11. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I didn't have a clue when I was one of them. Still only have general clues in areas important to me. Typical driver ain't got a clue about rates... ...wasn't singling you out just pointing out a truth. The entire industry is mileage mentality. When you talk about rates with an average driver he or she is thinking in terms of the possible penny or three raise they might get every five years. They don't know jackschitt about the "lousy midnight load running straight thru and delivering on a meager 200 miles" to them that interupts their sleep schedule and is a far cry from the 600+ miles they expect on every load... ...carrier made $6 a mile and they starve that driver with 30-40 cents of it.. he doesn't get miles, can't idle, can't go home, etc, etc, that's what typical driver thinks..
     
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