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Trucking co's useing per diem

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by old timer123, Jan 30, 2013.

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  1. Jan 30, 2013 #1
    old timer123

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    Its a fact that these co's are useing your per diem to pay you far less than what your worth.I had co's tell me they would start me at 35 cents or more. What they do is use the per diem pay and reduce the starting pay they told you.Dont give up YOUR PER DIEM!!!! You EARN it being away from home and out on the road.Any co that says they are paying per diem is screwing you big time!! Im sending letters to the IRS and some news channels to get this corrupt system looked into.The gov is loseing millions each year in taxes from this system.Its for you drivers to claim at the end of the year and get a big deduction.That figures out to be around 18,000 or more you can claim.You seriously wanna give that deduction up??? Fight for your per diem.10-4
     
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  3. Jan 30, 2013 #2
    derwood

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    some companies like mine have a per diem but its not that much so you are still able to write of at least 75% of your daily er diem, so dont lump everyone into that catagory. you are not a certified accountant so dont start talking about things you are not qualfied to.
     
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  4. Jan 30, 2013 #3
    droflex

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    I'm not privy on per diem for trucking. Only for for pipe welding.

    How does this per diem work in the trucking industry?

    I was under the impression that if the wheels weren't turning, there was no money being made by the driver.

    Thanks.
     
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  5. Jan 30, 2013 #4
    old timer123

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    didnt say all co's do but many are.You fit in the catorgory of messing it up by taking it!! :)
     
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  7. Jan 30, 2013 #5
    derwood

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    every company does it different ours is done by so much per mile of there pay is not taxed each week. some are so much per day is paid to them as perdiem pay, personally i dont like that style to complicated. and some do like us but dont tax a big portion of their per mile pay. its an advantage to the company there is no doubt to that otherwise why would a company do it, most changes are usually made to help the company but that way they stay in bussiness if not they will be left to go under like the other 1700 or so companies a year that clost their doors every year in this industry
     
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  8. Jan 30, 2013 #6
    droflex

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    I just read a previous thread by oldtimer123. It does seem as tho taking a per diem is not a good idea.

    I'm not a paranoid kinda' guy normal. I dont want someone taking advantage of me and laughing all the way to the bank either.
     
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  9. Jan 30, 2013 #7
    old timer123

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    Per diem is a system for drivers out on the road to claim at the end of the year for all their deductions.Meals etc etc. These ,well many trucking co's use it to cut your starting pay down instead of paying what they told you they would.I was driving for JBHunt and told i was gonna be started at 39 cents a mile.They asked me in orientaion if i wanted the per diem pay.I told them no.My pay stub showed they were paying per diem instead,after i refused it.So basically instead of the 39cents a mile they said they would pay me,they cut it down to 27 cents a mile from useing the per diem.Used the per diem to make up the difference.I asked my DM about this and they denied doing it.I got hold of payroll then,got someone in payroll and they said yes thats what the company is doing.They use the per diem to cut your pay.Thats around 18,000 or more drivers cant claim on taxes.lot of these drivers dont know how the system really works.You let a company pay you per diem and you cant claim that 18,000 come tax time.
     
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  10. Jan 30, 2013 #8
    old timer123

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    no its not a good idea.for some,yes,but for many no.Had a driver figure it our and he agreed he was loseing big time.Per diem pays drivers $59 a day being out on the road and away from home.Thats around 18,000 or more depending on how many days you are out.you really wanna give that deduction up at tax time??? Sure its puts a little more money in your pocket per week,but these trucking co's are taking some of it to the bank also.And you work for it.why should they benefit from it??? its your money.Just saying :)
     
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  11. Jan 30, 2013 #9
    Grouch

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    Per diem will really hurt you if you ever have to draw Workman's Comp or when you reach retirement age and try to draw Social Security that is when it is really going to affect you. Also, if you apply for a loan such as a mortgage, you will get hurt here also.
     
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  12. Jan 30, 2013 #10
    Knotme

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    Every company does it different, if the amount is less than you can deduct on your taxes then of course you would be on the losing end, you also have to know if you can claim anything more on taxes which most of the time you can not.(SNI program as an example) Some companies offer you the same amount as you would be able to claim on your taxes, which is a plus having the money now over waiting to get your tax refund. The only downfall that you may have taking per diem is that if reduces your reported gross pay which may affect your SS benefits as well as when applying for a loan.
     
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