WB I80 in Elk Mountain, WY in a blizzard I came upon a crash scene and was unable to stop my truck, clipped the corner of another truck's trailer, and got cited for excessive speed.
The speed posted was 45mph.
I was crawling through this mess at 15-20 mph when I made visual contact with the crash scene 1/2 mile ahead of me.
2 trucks overturned and tangled in the center divide.
Several others that were flying past me earlier sprawled all over the road.
I slowed to under 10 mph, but there was no traction to be had on the frozen road, and I slid for a good 800-1000 feet at 3-5 mph, kept it in a straight line, and the front of my trailer hit the rear of another trailer.
I am going to fight this next month.
Do I have a chance?
If 5mph is too fast, then the road should have been closed IMO.
Had there been any traction, I would have been able to stop the truck no problem.
Not sure what the cop thinks I could have done.
Everyone else was having problems too.
Any advise on what to say, or what not to say to the judge would be helpful.
It is what it is, and I am going to be honest.
I just hate court rooms.
They make me clammy and nervous. lol.
Fighting a ticket in WY
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jet460, Feb 14, 2013.
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court rooms make us all nervous, pics of road conditions would be helpful. things like this is way im an OOIDA member the take care of this type of stuff and are great with advice. hope it all works out for you, good luck
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Well u can fight it. Do u got trackers on truck? Have company pull the speed log at that time and u should be ok. Problem is if its on the inspection report fightin ticket does not make CSA points go away have to go threw fmcsa site n file there. 2nd of all if it was a blizzard why where u on roads? There gonna ask u that and don't say I have to make this load on time..
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Too fast for conditions.
if 5 mph made you slip n slide then 5 mph was too fast.
That's the "catch all" phrase.123456 Thanks this. -
The damage was so minimal, no inspection was done.
I had a broken marker light.
The other trailer had an insignificant dent.
Why the cops even got involved, I don't know.
I think the other driver requested it.
We were both able to drive away.
Not sure about the tracker thing.
I have a Qualcomm.
Not sure if it records anything.
Our safety dept guy did not mention it.
I drive like a grandma anyway.
I'm never in a hurry.
I'm the guy literally everyone passes.
I'm THAT guy. lol
Everyone passed me that day, and ended up in a pileup.
I just happened to be the last guy on the scene, and mother nature
took over.
Quite a strange feeling sliding that far, that slow.
Longest minute of my life.
At least I kept it in a straight line, and so glad nobody got hurt.NavigatorWife and Rogerthat Thank this. -
Its in Wyoming, you can go from driving on a clear sunny day to a blizzard in a matter of a few miles. Been there done that.
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That's exactly what happened.
3 miles past the scene it was clear weather. -
Happened to me going east out of Laramie.....in April. On either side of the hill, bright sunny day, on top, looked like the north pole.
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If you both drove away and there were no injuries, I do not think it is a DOT reportable accident. First thing to do is hire any attny, most of them will have a flat fee for this sort of thing, and let the attny work out a deal with the PA to reduce the ticket to something less serious. All told expect to spend around $1000. (Attny cost, court fee;s, and fines)
*Edit* try and fine an ATTNY who works in the area you got ticketed in. That attny will know the judges and PA, giving you a better chance of them just talking to each other and you just having to send in a check. -
Excessive speed, which often can mean for conditions, pretty much covers any incident where there is a loss of traction(skidding, sliding) and you hit something. I was hit with that while doing 10 mph when I was 16 that involved an accident. I skidded, hit something, excessive speed. Wasn't even a wet road, just a bad situation that I couldn't of done anything differently in. Since you slid, I doubt you'll be able to get out of it.
They'll point out the fact that you weren't able to stop safely. There's really nothing you can do to argue that point. The speed doesn't matter to them since in the end, you weren't able to stop safely. You can say they should of shut the road down but they'll just point out that you should of shut yourself down if it was not possible to safely operate the vehicle in those conditions. Then you try to argue the road conditions were drivable than suddenly turned for the worst and there had not yet been an opportunity to shut down safely(no exits, etc.). That will fall on deaf ears and if they do bother even responding you'll get, "You should of used resources to find out the road conditions and weather ahead."
Please don't take this as me attacking you on your ability to drive. I'm not at all. I go through WY every week in the middle of the night, I know how it gets. I'm just pointing out what their argument will be and most likely that it'll be more successful than yours as far as the judge is concerned.123456 Thanks this.
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