Hello , the Non-Egr early ISX have a strange way to activate the turbo wastegate , a ruber line is pulled from intake to the wastegate and for balancing the air pressure they put some sort of calibration valve at the end that allow a big amount of boost to escape outside ,...dumb system imo . Now yesterday we checked the air-to-air CAC so when we pressurized the system we also check to see at what pressure the wastegate will start to open
Well , the wastegate start to open when the pressure reached 36 psi wich makes the system 100% useless in this engine since the boost never reach over 30 psi.
My engine is the 500hp /1650torque model , and even when I had the engine up to 565hp and 1850 torque the boost never reach more than 35 psi .
I use the engine at cruise @ 1300 rpm /62 mph and I never shift over 1600 rpm .
I wonder if is not better to get rid of the wastegate system by disabling the gate and plug the intake so no air gets out from that valve anymore , i lose a lot of boost from that stupid valve.
2001 Non Egr Cummins Isx , the wastegate is completely useless imho !
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Narcis.M, Feb 21, 2013.
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The best solution is to put on a non wastegate turbo. Cutting off the waste gate from activating might seem right, but you can do damage to that particular turbo. i have never been a fan of "shade tree" modifications to a turbo. Just do it right and get a non wastegated turbo as a replacement and end your troubles.
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effect of exhaust manifold backpressure makes it open much earlier than when pressurizing only intake side.
I don't understand what kind of valve there is but my guess is it shouldn't be leaking except if it is bleed valve used to raise boost pressure.Narcis.M Thanks this. -
Where the air connection from the wastegate enter in to the intake there is some sort of calibration valve that let a lot of air out. Cummins say that is ok to be like this .
You are right for the back pressure it did not crossed my mind. -
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If you were to "tie off" the wastegate function, you have the same deal. You have a turbo that is acting just like a non wastegated one, but not the effectiveness of a non waste gate one. Like I mentioned, there are any number of compressor wheels that can be installed in a non waste gate turbo to overcome some of the limitations you mention. There is a balance that can be obtained to match what you are doing and how you are doing it. Your response still exhibits too narrow of a thinking on this. It is captivating how so many engines have done extremely well over the years using only non wastegated turbos. When they are custom matched for the engine and the application, they do a much better job than the OEM cookie cutter mold type of turbos that get put on. The only reason for the OEM going with a waste gate turbo in the first place was to cover all the applications that the engine might be faced with from local daily p&d type of work, to primarily highway running. Sure it does cover all those bases, but a waste gate turbo, by having to cover all those bases, does none of them near as efficiently as a properly matched non waste gate turbo.
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