Cat peec engines

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by spacetrucker88, Feb 26, 2013.

  1. spacetrucker88

    spacetrucker88 Heavy Load Member

    Is anybody other than me still running one of these?. Mine has about a million and a half miles on it just put it on the dyno at Antrim diesel last week. It is a 425 putting 394hp to the rollers.Not too bad what do you think?
     
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  3. SmokinCAT

    SmokinCAT Road Train Member

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    No one I know still runs one that has the electronic controls on it, most have been converted. They are fine when they are right and will run right along with there full mechanical counterparts, but when stuff starts going wrong trouble shooting is a nightmare.
     
  4. RHay

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    I run one for a bit last summer, was set at 425 but run like it was about 200hp. Truck was checked out at a couple cat houses and everything checked out good. Truck never threw no codes or anything. THe only thing I can say about that thing is it got good mileage. I've seen a few of them that had the hp bumped up but only one of them ever ran worth a hill of beans. If it was mine it would be converted to full mechanical.
     
  5. spacetrucker88

    spacetrucker88 Heavy Load Member

    after a new turbo new injectors (nozzles) and a 460 chip in the pump my old 4 and a quarter is putting 517 hp to the rollers and 1970 foot pouund of torque with 34 pounds of boost. this is on Antrim Diesels' dyno, they converted the horsepower to 620 at the flywheel. This is out of an old 3406C PEEC engine that everyone even the pittsburgh power guys said nothing could be done to improve the power or torque, other than changing it to a mechanical engine. We will see how it does in a week or two.
     
  6. spacetrucker88

    spacetrucker88 Heavy Load Member

    after a new turbo new injectors (nozzles) and a 460 chip in the pump my old 4 and a quarter is putting 517 hp to the rollers and 1970 foot pouund of torque with 34 pounds of boost. this is on Antrim Diesels' dyno, they converted the horsepower to 620 at the flywheel. This is out of an old 3406C PEEC engine that everyone even the pittsburgh power guys said nothing could be done to improve the power or torque, other than changing it to a mechanical engine. We will see how it does in a week or two.
     
  7. SmokinCAT

    SmokinCAT Road Train Member

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    I would say the new nozzles accounted for a lot of that increase. The timing that the 460 uses prolly brought the torque up too.
     
  8. V8Lenny

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    Anyone tried EVRY mod trick or boost sensor trick on those PEEC Cats? Boost sensor resistor worked fine with EDC controlled Bosch P-pumps and EVRY with electronic Bosch VE rotary pumps. Cat pump electronics can't be much different.
     
  9. CatPowerC15

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    1970 sounds a little far fetched....maybe 1709? Not bashing, but even the true 460 was only rated at 1650 ft/lbs. Thats great if she's actually pushing that much.
     
  10. spacetrucker88

    spacetrucker88 Heavy Load Member

    6421 torque on the rollers converted divide rear end ratio 3.91 and add 20 percent for driveline loss 1970 foot pounds of torque this is on a taylor dyno
     
  11. SmokinCAT

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    The system used on these is weird, I dont think there is a way to fool it, the sensor is in the governor control housing. I dont know that even if you could wether or not there would be any gains over a full mechanical as the pump internals are the same.

    One thing I would like to see if I could get accomplished is a manual control for the timing advance they use, like controlling it with a potentiometer, this would be for competition use only though.
     
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