Pay Rates

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by psychocreep, Jan 2, 2008.

  1. broncrider

    broncrider Road Train Member

    arigo...fer starters you might wanna watch who you call kid....i know in certian area's it is a put down and normally leads to punches thrown

    you are correct with the 8 days/70 hours, however we do have the "reset" available to add 70 extra hours as needed

    basicaly you can, figuritavly speaking run out of hours on the 5th or sixth day....reset for 34 hours then go back to running as hard as the law will allow
     
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  3. arigo

    arigo Bobtail Member

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    5 days x 14 hours a day = 70 hours. take your 34 hour break, run for 14 more hours, and the max you get is 84 hours. Not 100.

    I'll stop calling him kid. I was just sick of his tone and not making any legit points.
     
  4. Ohnoo

    Ohnoo Light Load Member

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    My point is that you don't know what you THINK you know. Yet you wish to comment about drivers being illegal when all you know is the letter with no actual use of the rules. Your above numbers prove this by using 14 for your daily total. Let me ask you a simple question since you know so much about driving. How many hours could a driver put out in a 96 hour period? To make it simple with out splitting sleeper berth time, no food, fuel, loading/unloading time has those would be random variables. Just PTI's, driving, and sleeping.


    Has far has the kid comment goes you would have been about 8 or 9 the day I became a combat vet.
     
  5. arigo

    arigo Bobtail Member

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    Around 51 hours. I don't know how long a PTI should take so I omitted it.

    drive 11 hours (96 - 11 = 85). sleep for 10 (85 - 10 = 75), follow that pattern to 84, drive 11 more and you're out. If he's just driving, which is 51. You could use the 16 hour exception, or you do use the adverse weather exception for different results, but you're only supposed to use the adverse weather exception when you don't expect it, and if you had to use it the first day, you should expect it by then.

    So how do you manage 100 hours legally in a week? Aside from highly favorable unrealistic circumstances where your duty time limit ends just in time to lump a load. We both know I never claimed to know so much about driving. I claimed you had to run illegal to regularly do 100 hours a week.

    Edit: I edited from 41, made a stupid error
     
  6. broncrider

    broncrider Road Train Member

    50 hours of driving and pti by my calculator

    a pti, or pretrip inspection is only required to take 15 minettes of log time

    96 hours is only 4 days, but yes you would surely run out of hours and need to reset

    100 hours a week isnt uncommon, not legal by the letter of the law, but not uncommon
     
  7. 074344

    074344 Road Train Member

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    Joethemechanic,

    I don't drive the little brown trucks but I do haul tankers and freight. I did make $78,176.23 for the year. I too sleep with the wife every night, weekends off (Friday afternoon thru Monday until 5am) and have never driven OTR. These guys seem to be worried about hours of service but are not compensated for all of their time. They work for pennies by the mile and give up huge amounts of free time to the company. Let's not even begin to talk about benefits! I am almost ready to give up educating these folks.

    Drive safe
     
  8. psychocreep

    psychocreep Light Load Member

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    074344,

    If you don't mind me asking.. How do you land a job like that?
     
  9. Powell-Peralta

    Powell-Peralta Road Train Member

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    Dear Psycho:
    if you are married, then no. The time away probably won't be "worth it." But who says you have to be away? i got hired by overnite (now UPS freight) with only one month OTR experience.

    Timing (and luck) are everything. And there are ways to get lucky.
     
  10. thummper

    thummper Light Load Member

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    I have heard many seasoned drivers on this site complain about the sleeper rules, meaning that they generally wanted the flexibility of grabbing 4 hours at a time, but that dot allowed 8 hours only plus 2 totalling the 10 required between 11s. didnt know you could log 6 hours to sleeper any way, anyhow...... unless you were an ice driver or hauling high explosives/ nuclear for bush.
     
  11. thummper

    thummper Light Load Member

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    I am near the end of my first wonderful year as a local delivery driver [building materials] It has it's advantages in spring/summer but the hours fall off in the fall/winter. I'm doing 6 to 7 hours a day right now with fridays off [december] for 13.58/hour. in a week I'll start for an equipment rental company driving a boom truck for 19./hour. so I've made it through the drought known as the first year. I'm financially humble. had to borrow money via a balance transfer to just get through nov/dec. that was irritating to a guy that used to earn 25./hour swinging a hammer just a year before.
    I started with a brick/manure company in feb that had unsafe equipment for 16./h. we fought constantly about bald tires and unadjusted shifters until I left for a lumber company 5 months along with new petes that had everything except cd players and enjoyed 10 to 14 hour days on 13.58/h until the fall. got 9 months a'trailerin and 6 more as a mixer driver, garden hose trucker. I got tired of wet boots.
    the ticket for a new driver is a belly dumper, applying in january. the momentum will start and they will wake up and call you about a job within a month. you'lle get 15./hr plus a lot of ot to take the pain out of it. then you will be just working long shifts. you almost never have to get out to secure anything--you can walk around inspecting just to stretch every few hours--I drove a belly for a short time [part of the inventory] and I really liked it. easy.
     
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