New HOS

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Voltrucker, Mar 23, 2013.

  1. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    That's right . If a driver is parked there can be any combination of sleeper/offduty totalling 10 hours and now off duty can be logged in a nonmoving CMV . This is a big plus for hotshotters with 1 ton crewcabs without a legal sleeper .
     
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  3. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    The only part of the new rules that REALLY affect us will be the no two 34 hr resets in one week. It doesn't happen often but if I have a driver come off a 34 on Monday am and runs for two days, then either has mechanical problems,gets sick, or runs into bad weather, and is laid up for two overnight periods he cannot reset his clock?

    Really don't see the logic here, first they want to make sure you are not driving tired, now they want to make sure your not TOO rested???

    What does this rule gain? "Splain it to me Lucy"
     
  4. 48Packard

    48Packard Ol' Two-stop Shag!

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    Government asininity run amok.



    Again.
     
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  5. Colorato

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    The part most everyone's missing here is the fact it's purposely confusing. There changing the HOS and pushing EOBRs at the same time stating that "with the new HOS coming July 1 all carriers will need EOBRs to avoid driver confusion".

    There gonna make them happen one way or another. It's a bait and switch.
     
  6. aiwiron

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    If someone lacks the common sense and must have a tattle tale they have no business in a truck.
     
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  7. Colorato

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    Can't argue with that. But that's there reasoning and we all know how thought out it is.
     
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  8. RickG

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    The tattle tales are coming because drivers with no common sense thought they could get away with flagrant HOS violations . They get caught and the drivers with sense have to pay the consequences .
    This is also the result of safety departments lacking the sense to detect violations .
     
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  9. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    I have my view on it but not like your view, plenty of reasons to have people tagged on some form of tracking but it is not new at all just more advanced.

    Tachographs are the grand daddy of tattle tales and have been around as long as I can remember and still in use today.
     
  10. Bumpy

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    I have been on e-logs and the company I was with then did not care. I.E.- Runs averaging 500mi with 80% steel mills. (flatbed) Now those of you who have pulled a flat know many steel mills are notorious "time busters" coupled with intermediate runs= no $$.

    I left and went to a company with no e-logs and ironically;I ALWAYS had runs of 1800mi or more-from Rochester,MN to Tacoma,Phoenix and L.A. where e-logs WOULD have been a good fit. Nonetheless;it was a rare week when dispatch and I did not go head to head on the return run..i.e. they would set up delivery times well out of reach of HOS-my 70 would get used up well before 8 days. Their reasoning? They wanted us back ASAP (not for our happiness) but there were pre-loaded trailers waiting to roll in the yard. Rinse and repeat..For two years. It was overall a good company except for this one thing. I would still be there if not for my fiancee wanting me to leave-she could see it was tearing me up. But I'm getting off-track.

    I wanted to continue flatbedding (dont know why) and the 4 small companies I applied to-and could have worked for-all had a 'Fatiqued Driver Over Threshold' on their score. Why? Coincidence?? Nah..I'm not here to debate the HOS-and I hate the rules and e-logs..But as everyone is different in terms of endurance..And say a newbie (and some veterans) who don't have the fortitude to say NO when to tired to drive safely,what can become of this nothing short of disaster-if done over and over again?? Not to mention the fact if some Professional Drunk decides to kill themselves on MY trailer when I'm out of hours..And it's my fault cause I'm not supposed to be there??

    Do I cheat on paper? Of course. I ADMIT it. However.I will not run a full day illegal and set myself up to be a sacrifice to the DOT. If I were younger..maybe.Knowing myself as I do.

    Lastly;with all that I have said-if anyone I love gets taken out by a Trucker and it comes to my attention he/she was not supposed to be there;I will hire the best possible lawyers I can to put them away as long as we can and make them suffer..What other re-course would there be?? Aw Schucks...That's O.K. man.. I don't think so..

    Again..I HATE rules and laws-references available upon request- and in a perfect world where Companies and Truck Drivers all had common sense and greed wasn't an issue-we could all just go our own way..But anyone with an I.Q. over 75 knows this isn't the case.
     
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