Being forced to move?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by OK_Boot, Apr 11, 2013.

  1. Tonythetruckerdude

    Tonythetruckerdude Crusty Deer Slayer

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    This is where good planning comes into play...there are exceptions always, but you need to use alittle common sense too.
     
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  3. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    Its about the point I was , back handed way trying to make. But no one can force you to drive . But not driving would have have its own set of head aches!
     
  4. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    Why did he make you move. They shut down people at weigh stations all the time.
     
  5. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    You know, I really wish these guys would give a little more detail. Something tells me that this is a dispute between OP and an office jock. Office jock knows the rules. OP asked if he could be forced to move the truck, didnt say drive down the block or even across the street. Move. Like if someone parks on the fuel island and is watching TV in the driver's lounge...

    "Driver, we need you to move your truck. Others are waiting to fuel."

    "I dont have to. You cant force me to. I am out of my 11, and 14."

    "We're going to call the sheriff."

    (hmmm, I'd better get on the Truckers Report...maybe one of those people on there will have legal point so can stay on the fuel island...it's mine!)
     
  6. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Yes you can be made to move off private property or by the DOT.

    If you get snotty and try to tell them what the rules are only makes it worse.

    Now I have had two customers that I politely reminded the guard that if I get in a wreck they will be co-defendants in the lawsuit. That approach has worked and they made special accommodations for me.

    If you are on paper logs you shouldn't even be asking that question. If on elogs you simply go into violation and put in remarks why. Then you have to restart your 10. No safety dept is going to put you through the ringer over that. They understand that grey area.

    In other words the DOT doesn't comprehend these situations and you're screwed. The dispatcher and customer should of scheduled you correctly. But in no way does the regulations have authority that a customer has to abide by. That's outside their scope of jurisdiction.

    If you get put OoS in LA and they will send you to a truck stop. Wait a minute, I'm too dangerous to drive but you want me to drive? (tobacco spit, phhht) BOY, I told you to go to the truck stop and I'm going to check on you! Yes sir! :)
     
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  7. carrkool

    carrkool Heavy Load Member

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    Yes you can be asked to move regardless of your hours. Once someone has told you to leave their property and you refuse you are now tressapasining and are criminaly liable
     
  8. Driver of the year

    Driver of the year Medium Load Member

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    Just move the truck! It's not like you are violating the Constitution? The people who came up with these regulations on the log book are not squeeky clean either!
     
  9. OK_Boot

    OK_Boot Bobtail Member

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    i was parked in a grocery store parking lot because of snow and ice on the roadways, very unsafe conditions. the store was closed and i was not in the way of the plow clearing the lot, driver of the plow didnt make any fuss about it and was appreciative of me deciding to pull then risk the roads. local cop came and told me i had to leave the lot and was unresponsive when i brought up the road conditions. the property owner nor the driver of the plow hired by the owner of that lot asked me to move prior to the arrival of the local cop.
     
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  10. OK_Boot

    OK_Boot Bobtail Member

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    please dont insult me with your accusations regarding common sense. im sorry i didnt meet your expectations with my question but instead of being like every other ignorant driver out there who, let me throw some examples out for you, assume the blame is on everyone else, or in a high stress situation has to jump down everyone else throats without taking into regard that maybe there are things going on you cant see. also, please dont think i am returning insult for insult, thats not my intent. my intent is to get you to use common sense and say to yourself maybe this guy was under stress and didnt think to give the full list of details right away.
     
  11. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    There was a method to the madness. I stated that there wasn't enough details to go on with, and then I listed a worse case scenario... A self centered driver who is trying to figure out whether or not he could be forced from parking overnight on a fuel island. Hope for the best, expect the worst.

    if there weren't any 'no trucks/no tresspassing/no overnight parking' signs, I would have told him, "They know I am parked here. Already spoke to someone." I wouldn't tell him that it was the plow guy I spoke to.
     
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