Stop Temporary Foreign Workers

How in the world do you think that can be a non offensive comment???????

Canada has been an independant nation longer than estonia you twat.

And it has had many people here with family backgrounds (Ukraine british french etc) going back over 10 generations now - my part was settled in 1870 and there are many families still here on the same ground their fathers first homesteaded.

Naturalization to a country has nothing to do with the situation at hand either- the influx o people who are NOT immigrating but instead are just bypassing the system to work here and displace canadian workers. Or if they do emigrate do so abusing a system that allows them to bypass the legal one millions have used for years that has been tried and proven. They use the TFW to work and travel here then stay here and claim landed immigrant status.

I give you two examples o people I know personally=

"G" came to Canada in 1994 for a visit with his wife from scotland. They decided they liked it here so they applyed to emigrate, hired a lawyer and paid all fees to gain dual citizenship. They declared their assets they brought to the country paid taxes again and once here bought a home (residence) and took he did the test for his CDL and worked here driving truck in the lower mainland for 10 years before moving to alberta. Total time and money to immigrate was almost 3 years and many thousands of fees and applications.

"S" came here from scotland on a TFW. Bison paid for an LMO and hired him while still in Scotland. He came here, worked the worst paying routes in Bison's inventory for a year. At that point he he shredded his return ticket went on vacation for awhile and then applied for Landed immigration status. Because he was employed and had been here long enough he was automatically granted and brought his wife to live with him. She is granted LIS as well. While here he declares himself on his taxes in Scotland as working abroad and all his deductions are reinbursed and paid to the UK.

I know some people here want to defend the TFW, some may have even come here on it. But it is indefensible as a shorter easier cheaper route to work in canada and emigrate. It is a bypass in a previously working system that is being abused and importing workers into a canadian economy with restrictions and lower wages and will displace canadians here who would have been well paid to take those jobs.

Do you consider a Subway worker skilled labour? in 2003 the shortage of people in Ft mac meant they paid A&W and subway workers (usually female natives or people who came there from across canada from other stores) over $16 dollars an hour to work there. Free market in effect, low availability high wages. Now those jobs are done by east indian and phillipino TFW for minimum wage and employees are treated like crap because deportation hangs over them if they fight back!!!

The original intent was to bring proffesionals here to canada to provide skilled labour where needed in the economy. a short term Green card if you will. The system has been abused and is out of control. It is time to slam that door shut and rethink a different policy with more strict guidelines and halt the flow of foreign workers to our country.

 

I just don't get your logic here at all. One moment the wage is dire and not worth working for, then when others take that job it's not there's to take, then they are sending the spare money home? which by all accounts spare money in such low paid roles is a no no.

You might well want to call troll and go running to the hills, in the same vein people will call you inward or racist in your viewpoint, but lets not drop to those levels and just accept that your fact free view point is not boding to well in sustaining an argument.

 

Your post is wonderfully flowered with utter nonsense. For a start reading your posting you have no clue no clue at all about the process that is required for immigration never mind the taxation issue. How is it offensive to ask about ones Canadian background 140 years worth of history in your family line? and yet feeling the right to refuse others their immigration opportunity.

Hypocrisy to the endth degree iced with more fact less right wing nonsense.

Do you even understand the first word of TFW

 

I can see you don't bother to read or that english comprehension is a challenge to you.

I _agree_ with immigration. I do not view TFW as a replacement, I view it as an insult to the millions who have used the proper legal channels to come to this country. If I were from a family of ethnic immigrants I would look at the people who are coming here under the TFW after the time and money spent to bring my own family here and be enraged.

"How is it offensive to ask about ones Canadian background 140 years worth of history in your family line?"

When it phrased as "Canada is so young country you can hardly call one a nation. (no offence meant by that !)"

This is an incredibly insulting line that attempts to demean my Canadian nationality. And saying "No offence" afterwards is just an ashloch way of acting like it isn't supposed to be insulting. If you say an insulting thing then say "no offence intended" expect to still get punched in the face. And deserve it.

 

That is de jure. De facto Estonians have lived in this area more than 800 years. I marked independant as bold. But it is not a history lesson. Let`s stick to the topic.

But really I meant no offence. I like your country and people. I just wanted to add a point of view, since a lot of things look different when viewing them from another hilltop.

If I would have been born in Canada, maybe I would also think like you and be a supporter of your ideas. I don`t know when the first Estonian landed in Canada but I know the first one to establish a successful farm in Alberta was in 1899. I bet their children would rather support your ideas than mine.

 

GET BACK ON TOPIC N STOP THIS BS!!!!!!! We DO NOT need anymore TFW's. The reason there are so many now is cause its so easy to get in because its out of control like mentioned previously. Canada has an unemployment rate and so as long as that exists why should we have TFW's??? The wage is to low you say?? Well then let those employers starve until they decide to be 'Canadian' and pay a fair wage. This is the simplest solution IMO...

 

Spacemoron...you have no clue what yer talkin about so leave this topic to us who know exactly how it is here...

 

Well my learned friend you have no idea about my credentials and evidently no idea about written English either

 

If you want to attempt to tear apart my point by claiming my english (sic) comprehension is challenged. It's English! and no it's not challenged.

In reference to the different streams of immigration then i cannot help you in understanding the cost differences involved in moving across the world. TFW is not a form of replacement immigration process and as you are well aware application for landed status is not a possibility when POE is a TFW. The process for those on TFW is to approach the province for nominee then apply for PR so lets clear the sky is falling in attitude. A driver coming into Canada on a TFW will have to effectively sell up and leave their country of origin so don't attempt to demote the differences between the two.

 

But according to some posters TFW are sending their money to the country of their origin. How is this possible if the money is so dire i ask?