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Why are HAZMAT Crude Haulers working for the same pay (or less) as Water Haulers

Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by Rockdoctor, Apr 21, 2013.

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  1. Apr 21, 2013 #11
    Rockdoctor

    Rockdoctor Medium Load Member

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    Yes you can always move to greener pastures but I am trying to diagnose the problem... why are crude haulers being paid less than someone who does not haul HAZMAT? I could leave my current crude job and have another crude hauling gig in less than 24 hours so the demand for drivers is there. But why is the pay being depressed??
     
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  3. Apr 21, 2013 #12
    Longknocker

    Longknocker Light Load Member

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    GREED.................
     
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  4. Apr 21, 2013 #13
    Longknocker

    Longknocker Light Load Member

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    Ask the people that sign the check..........
     
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  5. Apr 21, 2013 #14
    Big Duker

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    Depends on the company. The rats like Schneider have come in and cut it from around $100K+ a yr to $50-60. There are still some good crude companies out there that take care of their people instead of themselves. Blame it on those who participate in the throat cutting and excuse making for the rat outfits. Save the excuses. Seen it happening since the 80s. There are just too many people who demand too little or have screwed their lives up to the extent that they see no other path but to rat out with CRE, Stevens, Schneider etc. If you are good and keep your nose clean you can find a good paying job.
     
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  7. Apr 21, 2013 #15
    The Gipper

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    As a new crude hauler I'm pacing over 80k(commission job). The hard working experienced drivers here are making over 100k while the lazy drivers here are making 50/60k.

    In TX I pay for my own housing but I see my wife & kids every night.

    Point is. There is money to be made even for rookies just gotta look hard to find them & then work your pay plan
     
    The Gipper, Apr 21, 2013
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  8. Apr 25, 2013 #16
    Rockdoctor

    Rockdoctor Medium Load Member

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    So here is the perfect example below, I did a scan on Craigslist and pulled up a water hauler job and crude hauler job in the same region of the country in OK. Water hauler making $20-$21/hr, plus a per diem, full benefits, vacation, etc.

    Then I pulled up a crude hauling job which is more challenging since most don't pay by the hour anymore. Crude hauler makes $20.13 hour and gets a $2K quarterly bonus and doesn't get any benefits.

    NOTE: The crude haulers doesn't even get paid for oriention! :biggrin_25523: (but you will need a HAZMAT endorsment). :biggrin_2551:


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    Now Hiring Water Tank Drivers (Alva, OK)

    Alan Ritchey, Inc. is now hiring Water Tank Truck Drivers in Alva, OK.$21/hr for nights, $20/hr for days plus OT over 40 hrs each week. 6 days on, 3 days off schedule. 6pm-6am, days on a seniority basis. Bunkhouse available OR $30/day per diem.

    You must:
    • Have a class "A" CDL with tanker endorsement
    • Have at least 1 year verifiable driving experience (Vacuum Tank experience a plus)
    • Be at least 21 years old
    • Have a clean driving record
    *No felony or DWI in the last 7 years

    Benefits:
    • Medical, Dental, Vision, and life insurance
    • 401K
    • Vacation, personal days and holiday pay

    If interested apply online at www.alanritchey.com or call Ashlee at 940.726.5225.
    NO RESUMES PLEASE

    • Location: Alva, OK

    • Compensation: 21-20
    • Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
    • Please, no phone calls about this job!
    • Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
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    • Crude Oil Hauler (Ringwood, OK)
    * Must have Class A CDL with Hazmat Endorsement.
    * Positively NO DUI/DWI in a commercial vehicle.
    * Need to have three or more years of crude hauling experience.
    * Must live within 40 miles radius of Ringwood, OK area.
    * Have held less than 10 jobs in 7 years or 5 in 3 years.
    * Can not be afraid to work 12-14 hour days.
    * Must be capable and responsible with daily paperwork (logs, trip reports, etc)
    * Orientation is unpaid. It is 4-5 days long in Mesquite, TX. Hotel, travel to and from, breakfast, and lunch will all be provided the length of your stay.

    I will be happy to answer any questions you may have. Please feel free to call me at 405.308.7479 or respond via email
    Thanks for your interest!
    - Angela

    • Location: Ringwood, OK

    • Compensation: 30% of the gross daily line haul, $20.13 an hour when paid hourly, Quarterly $2k
    • OK for recruiters to contact this job poster.
    • Phone calls about this job are ok.
    • Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
     
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  9. Apr 25, 2013 #17
    TLeaHeart

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    Well you are leaving out a large part of the pay for the crude hauler... 30% of the line haul.... paid $20.00 per hour while waiting to load or unload...

    I work for a company that pays 24.5% of line haul and $20 per hour... in a 10 hour day, I make $320 gross. A lot more than the water haulers make at $21 per hour... Even if they work a full 14 hour day, they make less than I do in 10... I am paid well for hauling hazmat. Why a ten hour shift, there are two people assigned to each truck, day and night shifts, and do to the distance of haul, we can do 2 loads in 10, or 3 loads in 14 if our partner is off.

     
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  10. Apr 26, 2013 #18
    colorado18spd

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    Just got hired to haul crude %24.5 of load will know the particulars in orientation. I know they pay detention. Oh, orientation is paid for. And I think all safety classes are paid.
     
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  11. Apr 27, 2013 #19
    Jgjg333

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    This is my 3rd week hauling crude I make 350 a day for 3 loads and 400 if i can pull the 4th load. I take my truck home and work any hours I want. Ive only been driving 8 Months. I make more now then when I Hauled sand, I'm home everyday and have Friday and Sat off. Sure a water or sand hauler can make more but they have to run two logs and are out for a week @ a time.
     
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  12. Apr 27, 2013 #20
    The Gipper

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    Who do you work for and where?
     
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