People must be desperate

I would say desperate is not the right word here. The combination of being uninformed, blind to inflation, and lack of financial literacy is largely to blame.
Not to mention automatic logs, maps, and trucks are allowing any low standard bozo to pass truck driving school and work for peanuts. and dont forget how dumbed down the average american has become. they cant figure out how to fart without someone telling them when and how to do it these days.
A lot of people just dont know how much they deserve to be paid in a truck. they just stand there brain dead with a hand out and waiting to be herded off a cliff....

 

Trying to figure out how e-logs have anything to do with your comments. You were on to something with the uninformed, blind to inflation, and lack of financial literacy. Then you started off into the woods. If a person has all the qualities you mentioned they do not, then e-log or paper has nothing to do with it. If you are pulling the right stuff at the right price, you would never bump up against your 70 and be making a good living. If you did it right, like you are saying they do not know how to do, a person could easily run no more than 2000 miles a week and be doing great. With those kind of miles, who cares if one is using an e-log or not?

You took what started out to be a good argument and found a way to go down the path of those who are usually on the losing side of an argument.

 

Can you please point out where i said "e-log"? I do not recall.
I said "automatic logs" refering to eobrs which allow the mathimatically illiterate to get down the road without doing simple math.
I am well aware that elogs are not much different from paper.

Mr. cowpie, my fellow glider kit owner,
No harm meant but when you assume sometimes you make an @s$(out of) u (and) me.

 

snowy-Every working man wants to get ahead, that's the way we were born. My question is how many drivers tell the truth about how much they haul for? Today I went by three O/O's with flatbeds. One had 4 utility bodies going to Brake & Clutch.Salem Ma. the other two had four small boxes that would fit in my car. going to NorthShore Mall. Does ego stand in front survival??

 

Imagine you were in construction: And you had a big project, where you'd make $1000/day profit. And then you had a dry spell, and someone wants a house built, where you know going in you won't make one cent. But, you know in a few weeks you have a great project lined up that will make you money:

Do you A) build that house, make no profit, but keep yourself, tools, and equipment busy, or do you B) sit back, and wait for the money that's up ahead?

The other thing with deadhead is timing. If I deliver to Boston, and know there isn't any freight that pays a crap. I head right out. No sitting. No booking that cheap load. Driving to the customer. Waiting to get loaded. Driving to the delivery (not always in an exact straight line), unloading. And then now going to get that good paying load.

 

Well, maybe I "assumed" too much, but you did state "automatic log". Usually that is another way of saying e-log. EOBR's are another, but they technically are not the same thing.

Irregardless, just because they have a machine do the logging for them does not mean they do not know how to do basic math. To wit, me. As part of my formal education, I got a Mathematics minor. Now I admit it has been a long, long time since I did differential calculus, but I still can handle most math quite well. And I use, and like using, an electronic log. One of my math professors, Dr. Ronald Gatterdam, made it a point to state that if there is an easier way to do something, then do it that way. By using an e-log, I am following his advice. You guys that just have fits over the concept of e-logs just have to try to make digs at folks that actually like using them with comments like mathematically illiterate. And the multi layered, relational spreadsheets I run to track my trucking stuff is more than ample evidence that I can put a mathematics equation together.

 

Has anyone ever thought that Arbys and Red Lobster have different business models? Rather than blame others with a different business model than you why don't you stop and figure out how they are actually doing it. You may learn something that can help you be more profitable in your own business.

Just a thought.

 

The owner of the office I lease is a good size developer and he will take anything that is break even when he doesn't have a project going just so that he can keep his people working so that he has them when he needs them.

 

Since we're being nickpicky, I know exactly what I "deserve" to be paid: $0.00. Nobody is obligated to pay me anything to drive a truck. If I agree to drive for a dime a mile, I have nobody to blame but myself.