Highest MPG Drive tire

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  1. allan5oh

    allan5oh Road Train Member

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    R197 is a trailer tire
     
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  3. Les2

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    Oh but don't tell him that, he didn't ask for that info...LOL.

    Trying to compare duel blowouts to single blowouts is kinda unfair since there are more duels on the road than singles,. Well used to be. But anyway let me know how that 2" strap works for ya...
     
  4. Cowpie1

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    But nowhere in my post did I compare dual to single blowouts. I just was talking about fuel economy and ROI only. Don't read into my comments what you think I may be saying. But as an aside, I have never had a drive tire "blow" in over 30 years. Sure, I have had flats, but no blow. Trailer.... now that is a different story, but they have always been someone else's trailers/tires and inherent problems. I do use and like wide based for my truck. I am probably the most meticulous person about checking air pressures and monitoring my tires. Eventually, I suppose, I will invest in a TPMS for them. But I am not losing any sleep over running them without it for now.

    In almost every instance, the main reason for extreme tire failures in the real world has been because tire pressures were not monitored and tire damage was not noticed and taken care of in a proper pre-trip inspection. When folks are serious about what they do, then problems seldom arise.
     
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  5. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    Ok first off, and I don't actually believe I have to explain this, you gave info that the OP didn't ask for, kinda like what I was doing. I don't know, or care for that matter, what your post was about.

    To better explain....

    The point I was trying to make was if he already has duals on he may want to look into a low RR dual tire instead of spending big money on rims and tires for singles. In the end it may be a better investment depending on his situation. Now IIRC the OP just bought or is looking to buy a truck of his own, can't remember, but either way running the truck for a little while would be the smartest option to make sure he doesn't need to change tire size or something else to help him improve the trucks MPG's and performance.

    Personally I don't care what he does. But it does remind me of this...... A guy asks if he goes this way will it take him to a certain destination, yeah, but if you go another way it will shorten the drive. Guys says, that isn't what I asked..............:biggrin_25526: Uh ok go ahead and take the long way...... not my time or money!
     
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    I have the XDA Energy singles on my '12 Cascadia. At 192k miles I have 9/32's left. At this rate I should be able to get 250k out of them. I was getting around 7.2-7.5 when they were new and I had them at 100psi. Around 50k I moved them up to 115psi and have been getting over 8 consistently on most loads. I have the XZA3 evertread on the steers and am down to 7/32's on them, which will have to be replaced in about 10k-20k.

    I would say that you will save alot more than you are paying if you get 250k miles from the drives.
     
  7. Cowpie1

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    Well, there was a good example today near Indianapolis that shot holes in the "duals are better than singles" theory regarding blowouts. At junction of I865 and I65 a truck had blown BOTH tires on a dual setup. So he was just as much dead in the water. But I would guess his predicament was a result of improper tire maintenance and monitoring tire pressures.... oh, that is the same reason that anyone would lose a wide based single!

    Each setup is a little different. I have the wide based Michelin XDN2's. Not exactly a fuel miser of a tire. Sure not anything compared to the XDA Energy. But still a solid performer. I have 110,000 on mine and they look like they will go pretty well to 300,000. My mpg's are in the mid 7 average. Got an 8.45 on a fillup today on 1145 miles. The stars were aligned on that one. They are a good thing when done right. But the newer low rolling resistance standard drive tires are really closing the gap fast. So fast, that I am led to believe that wide based will soon only be a real advantage if done on a truck that comes out of the factory. To retrofit a truck with wide based is going to take longer to ROI. There is the weight savings, if that is also a major factor in one's decision.
     
  8. 379exhd

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    It doesn't really matter I have been informed that if you're caught limping a truck back to a tire shop after blowing a dual you can be written up 3 strikes and you're out. Weather it's true or not I have no clue but it's not worth the risk. If I blow one I"m still sitting dead in the water waiting for a tire shop. By the time I limp the truck 50-100 miles the other tire is going to be shot. However I have a friend who's dad runs SS on his truck and trailer and he has said that when you blow a SS over a dual You're almost always going to have to buy a rim. Fuel savings is one thing good about the SS when they first came out however if he's paid by the ton the weight savings may be an advantage as well. There are pros and cons to each duals and SS however as state before in another post everybody's situation is different. me personally I would never run super singles I don't know enough about them to maintain them properly and I'd rather pay $600/tire for the XDA-3 drive and get 700k out of them than 150K on a super single. The fuel savings just isn't worth it. And I have a feeling I'd overload a SS I worry about that as well. IF the OP wants to know the lowest rolling resistance tire he needs to call a tire shop or look up the EPA test numbers and then he can make a decision. That would be my advise but he also needs to assess the whole situation as LES said.

    My steers are michelins, BFG's were lower rolling resistance by 9 points but there's a big difference in 175k to take off and 120k to take off. It's all about weighing all the options to make the right decisions. Good luck to the OP though in his search hope he finds what he needs and makes the best decision for himself
     
  9. Richter

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    I need new rubber anyways and i can trade the rims. Since i need new rubber and the rims don't matter i want the most efficient regardless of dual or single.
     
  10. Richter

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    @les2, rims can be traded for single rims when I buy the truck, rims make no difference.
     
  11. ENR

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    Acually Les2 , if you think that through that's not breaking even.. that's coming out ahead by a free set of tires. Buying the most fuel efficient tire up front essentially means not having to pay for tires ever again if those saving go towards the purchase of new tires.

    I do agree that duals vs SS has gotten close enough that you have to consider more than fuel efficiency. I run XDA energy in duals and love them. If I were paid by weight than I'd have opted for the SS.
     
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