Ok real talk. moving violations and citations in general

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by full speed, May 23, 2013.

  1. full speed

    full speed Heavy Load Member

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    Ok getting down to real talk.

    The other day while in my car I got written up for failing to make a complete stop.
    To be honest I felt the stop was maid.

    I figured I'd go fight it, since the only thing they can say now is that I,m guilty.

    Also I felt justified to say that, as truck drivers we should take a moment to think about it, as our job security and incomes depend on it.

    As everyone knows, truck drivers are no longer allowed to go to driving school to get they're citations off his/her record. Not leaving us much choise but accept the ticket or fight it.

    Heres the benefit of fighting it. Not to mention the chance to get it off your record, I would think that law enforcement would be less likely to write up truckers for petty offences, if officers had to spend more time in court and less time out on the street lowering the amount of citations they can write and amount of revenew an officer can generate.
    I'd even say they're superior's would discourage it if it cost them.

    One driver buy him self isn't much, but a united stance would be overwelming.

    What better way to fight back than to hit there pocket books.
    After all isn't that what there doing to us.
     
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  3. BossOutlaw88

    BossOutlaw88 Road Train Member

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    Most drivers don't have the time or the ability to go back to that city and state if but on home time, so they just pay. If you take off work, thus losing more money, you pay for the ticket either way.

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  4. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Yes, usually the larger the town the less likely the cop will show up for traffic court, then the ticket is dismissed. Don't ever tell the judge the cop is corrupt, especially when the cop is standing there. When I did that, I thought they were going to call in a SWAT alert. I refused to apologize because I was telling the truth about that particular cop.
     
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  5. Sly Fox

    Sly Fox Road Train Member

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    Two tickets I've fought (and won) were turned into mini-vacations for the wife. Took her out to California once, and the other time to New Orleans out of them. Not the best situation, but it made it worth the time off.
     
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  6. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Here's the bad thing bout fighting tickets.You go to the courthouse plead not gulity,they then set up a court date,they don't give you much time.I had a 4 day notice.Guess what at the last minute my disptcher could'nt find me load near the court house.They would'nt rechedule so I was FORCED to plead guilty and pay the fine.This happened yrs ago but to this day I HATE OHIO.Glad I never have to drive thru that state.I was so ready to fight that to the end just for the satisfaction.Little did I know when I plead not guilty that ws my hometime..Of all states I did'nt wanna take my hometime in Ohio.So I was out for 2 months before I got to go home.So nothing good came out of this.When it comes to truckers fighting the law,truckers gets the shaft.
     
  7. Sheriff1/6

    Sheriff1/6 Medium Load Member

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    I'll try and debunk some of this if I can.

    You said you were in your POV. How did the cop know you were a truck driver? I've stopped a lot of folks for traffic violations that tried to tell me they were truck drivers only to find out they were unemployed and haven't driven for years.

    As for not stopping at the stop sign. Some cops use a counting method and say you must come to a complete stop for three seconds. I've never seen a code written like that. Others watch your wheels to see if they come to a complete stop. Many times when you think you've stopped you're wheels have not stopped moving completely. Petty, I know, but it's the reality of things. Did you stop behind the stop sign and then move or go past it a bit and then stop? Some guys will write for this as not stopping.

    I would agree that your best bet is to fight it and plead your case in court. The cop doesn't care as he gets paid regular pay if he's working and overtime or comp time for off duty court. I'm guessing the cop who cited you was a
    "traffic enforcement" officer. There's a good chance he's paid through a Government grant to enforce traffic laws and the grant pays for court time as well.

    Most cops won't bother with such a minor violation. You might get stopped but no citation. Traffic enforcement is a numbers game. If you stop enough cars, you'll eventually hit upon something big. Minor violations are used for this.

    Good luck in court. Before you go, ask if there is a video of the violation.
     
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  8. Sly Fox

    Sly Fox Road Train Member

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    Every state and jurisdiction is different.

    My ticket in Ohio was scheduled for a plea about a month after I got it. Then, the 'court date' was set for two months later.
     
  9. superpet39

    superpet39 Road Train Member

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    EVERY single Officer I know loves going to court,(especially on off days) and some say they can't help but laugh when they show up and look at the persons face like their in shock that they (the officer) showed up.
     
  10. Ubu

    Ubu Road Train Member

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    Who do you think it is costing when you say it will cost them?

    They are using your money to operate in the first place and they get paid for going to court. It isn’t costing any of them anything personally, they will just raise taxes or fines more to make up for any shortfall.
     
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  11. CDL1968

    CDL1968 Medium Load Member

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    YEAH, I was an M.P. in the Marines for 6 years and then a deputy sheriff in the county back home for 4 years and everything you are saying is true. I personally hated attending court for traffic stuff, but a lot officers used it as a way to pay for their personal projects like a pool, boat, vacation, college, etc...

    In my county, I could even call what we called the "Court Lt." and ask him to stand in for me in traffic court, and as long as someone the sheriff's office was there and aware of the charges the court would proceed.

    Asking for if there is a video is important. If there is a video mostly likely your dead. I would still review it to double check. But here is one I heard used a few times by lawyers. They ask if cruiser with a dash cam and if it was 99% if there was no complaint/issue was made about something on the officers shift the video was destroyed. They lawyer would then have the ticket dismissed.

    Fight the ticket!
     
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