What do you guys think?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by hammondt, May 31, 2013.

  1. hammondt

    hammondt Bobtail Member

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    Hi All,

    I had a potential idea for a company the other day and I wanted to get your thoughts. I really don't like that brokers take so much of our hard-earned money (10-15%) so it got me to thinking - is there a way to cut them out of the trucking industry?

    I was thinking that if I could create a website/Android app that shippers could post directly to which took maybe 2-3% instead of the 10-15% brokers take now it would essentially put them out of business because they couldn't compete.

    Then I started thinking that I hate how long all of the paperwork and phone calls take today to get a load. I was thinking that there should be a way that you could just click "accept" on the Android app and it would store all of the info on the back-end, and update the load as "accepted" so that no one else can see it and try to accept it themselves.

    Lastly I was thinking about how frustrating collecting money can be depending on the broker/shipper. So what if it would automatically withdraw the money from the shippers upon pick-up of the load, hold it until the load is dropped off and then direct deposit it into the trucker's bank account upon verification of drop-off (minus the 2-3% of course :icon_smile:).

    What do you guys think? Something worth pursuing? Any other thoughts/suggestions would be most appreciated!
    Tom
     
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  3. leftlanetruckin

    leftlanetruckin Road Train Member

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    Sure, sounds good.
    Now IF you can get shippers to go along with it, that would be great.

    Martin
     
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  4. catalinaflyer

    catalinaflyer Road Train Member

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    Been tried, although long before smart phones and Android Apps. Some guy out of the Chicago area came up with exactly the same thing, shippers would post available shipments along with pricing. If you accepted the load it was assigned to you and immediately disappeared off the system. As soon as you delivered and submitted the appropriate proof of delivery with no OS&D the system would make payment within the specified time by the shipper.

    I was managing a company at that time and we used it a couple times but it failed within a few months. Quality (decent paying) shippers want to talk to a person so in the end the only stuff that was making it on there was from shippers who didn't want to pay anything and could care less, cheep!

    There's another form of it right now, Uship which is basically the same concept except you bid on the loads and most of the freight is LTL and COD.

    As for the comments about how much brokers are making and how they are just sitting around taking your hard earned money, I'm not going to beat that dead horse again. I have posted everything in black and white from a brokers perspective before and all I have to say is if you think brokers have it easy and are getting rich on your hard earned money, park your truck and become a broker. I'm no longer a broker, I'm a company driver but I have records from my brokerage back to 1998 that I would be happy to send you and you can see just how much brokers don't make off you.

    People are never going to stop trying to find ways to cut middle men out of business. Fact is that there will always be brokers in the freight business no matter how many schemes are thought up to get around them. Companies that want one stop shopping and one person or office to deal with will look to brokers because they don't have the time or resources to have 50 different trucks calling on them for one shipment. They prefer to have a business partner (broker) who gets to know their business, understands what it is they need and when they have shipments, they can make one call or send one e-mail and let the business partner handle all the rest of the work. This is especially true for companies that don't ship large quantities, regular times etc. The big carriers don't have time for them and they don't have the manpower to screen every truck that calls when they post a load. They want to make one call and know that a properly screened truck will arrive when they need it not waste hours upon hours answering calls and trying to do their regular work as well.

    Go ahead and give it a try but the instant you tell a shipper your taking the money from their bank account when the truck picks up the load, no matter how secure the escrow or anything else, the call will be over with. Then will come the whole liability issue, who's liable, the smart phone, the truck, the shipper, the receiver, who? Oh and the 2-3%, what about the fee's charged by the company handling the money, they are going to charge every bit of that just for escrow services if not closer to 5% then your going to have to pay someone to handle the flow of data, setting up carriers, setting up shippers, answering technical questions from both sides. When you figure a single person to do all that at lets say $50k per year (good luck finding anyone for that price) your actual payroll expense will be closer to $65k a year so if you only hold 3% and pay out 1.5% for escrow services you will have to handle over $5 Million just to break even but then at that level one person won't be able to handle everything so....... do the math.
     
  5. Semi Crazy

    Semi Crazy Road Train Member

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    And this is in the flatbed forum because........................?






    I guess cuz we is the best truckers!
     
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  6. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    Likely on here as Flatbedders usually TRY stuff before condemming it :)
     
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  7. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    Great post catalinaflyer
     
  8. hammondt

    hammondt Bobtail Member

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    Very good thoughts. Especially about payment.

    I just did a little research and found dwollo might be a great option. Instead of taking the money on shipment we give the shippers the ability to mark a shipment as ready for payment after its dropped off. Then via the website we use dwollo (it charges 25 cents per transaction) to send the money to the trucker. It would take ~3 days to be deposited but it's a lot faster than how it is currently. They also could withhold and send us the 3% while doing the transaction. Then we wouldn't have to do any of the escrow stuff and the shippers are still in control of when their money goes out, but it's easy for them to do so when they have received the load.

    As far as shippers wanting to talk before hiring the trucker - I wonder if we could do a pre-screening process to make sure the trucker has insurance, no DUIs, and has a safe driving record. Something so that they could trust that any trucker that would "accept" their load is qualified and not a risk.
     
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