Gulf Coast Filter - Paper towel elements?

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  1. LITOA

    LITOA Bobtail Member

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    I have read several posts from way back when, on different forums, that paper towel rolls (Bounty, specifically) can be used as the filter element in a Gulf Coast Oil Bypass Filter (GCF). I even ran across a city council report out of somewhere in VA that had conducted a study on using different bypass filters for their firetrucks, etc, where they quoted Mr. Simms, the owner of GCF as having said that paper towels could be used.

    My question is this: Is there anyone out there that is actually buying Bounty paper towels and using them instead of the expensive elements sold by GCF? If so, how are you doing it? Are you just inserting the rolls straight from the grocery store? Are you buying cheap ladies stockings and cutting them to make a sleeve for the towels to go in, and if so, is the oil hot enough to melt them or have a chemical reaction with the nylon and dissolve them?

    Folks on forums say it "can" be done, but is it BEING done?

    I would appreciate info from GCF owners, not non-owning theorists, please.
     
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  3. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    Forgive me for my crudeness on this but just because you CAN drink your own pee doesnt mean you do it right...least not on purpose. Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. I would he very hesitant to try it if somebody else wants to be a guinepig go right ahead by all mean I would love to hear the results and see if it worked. Could be a viable money saving option. However until it is proven and some people get very activated over lost profit etc. I don't see it becoming wide spread. However does seem interesting that a simple roll of paper towels could in theory do the same job as the filter gulf coast sells. Although it has to be proven effictve for the same intervals or at least has to be at or below the cost if the intervals are different in order to be a viable option.
     
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  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Reams of info on the web about it. Just do it and take samples.

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  5. LITOA

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    379exhd,

    thanks for the reply, but as I stated in the original post, I am looking for first hand knowledge rather than theory.

    rollin coal,

    there are posts on the web stating it can be done, but none that I have found where the author states he/she is actually doing it and how they are going about it. If you have done so, please explain exactly what you're doing or share a link to a thread where someone claims to be dong it and how. Thanks
     
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    Bobistheoilguy.com any of the diesel pickup forums.

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  7. trees

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    Personally, I think the Gulf Coast setup is overpriced. I run a pair of NTZ AL-29 bypass filters. They are radial flow, and use a very densely wound paper on a polymide core.
     
  9. trees

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    Axial flow explained.....

    Now, the Frantz Oil Filter with it's toilet paper element design, filters up through the center at the bottom of the unit but now it delivers the oil down the entire 4" height of the TP roll exiting at the bottom and being recirculated again back to the engine. The oil does not penetrate sideways through the roll as if from inside the cardboard and out the last row of paper. It filters down the entire height of the roll as when it sits on your bathroom sink.

    Sounds great, but the flaw is this...

    With the oil flowing back down BETWEEN the layers of the filter media it is possible to have trapped soot push through a canal that is created along the length of the filter element. (That's the inherent flaw of an axial design).

    With the radial design the oil is pushed through, (not along), the filter media.

    I like radial flow, like the full flow filters employ, but with the fine straining possible in a bypass setup.


     
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    I would probably give this a try before I bought a Gulf Coast filter....

    http://www.frantzoil.com/catalog/item/4746217/8845144.htm

    I actually think it's a pretty good setup, and the bonus is the replacement elements are very inexpensive.

    If I were to change my setup I would go with the Frantz.
     
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    Ok, I looked at the Gulf Coast filter setup, it is axial flow, (I made sure, just didn't go from memory), and so you could use any roll of paper you wanted to, to act as a filter, but you probably don't want to do this... Why?? Because the filters effectiveness relies on the ability of the filter media to trap contaminants... If you used some paper towel like bounty, that isn't really tightly wound on the core/form then it really isn't "filtering" effectively...the Bounty paper towel roll will allow the oil to carry particles down through the paper, it will create "channels".... You need a paper element that is made with a thin paper that is densely wound, the paper should be wound so tight it's hard, almost like a piece of wood, on the ends where the oil will be forced through it...go get a roll of Scott toilet paper, the cheap stuff they sell at Wal-Mart, the stuff that has a thousand sheets to a roll...look at the end of it, see how dense it is?? It is wound tightly, this would be a good filter medium, if you could find it made to the same dimensions as the GCF roll...

    In an axial setup the filter media needs to fit really tightly into the housing, and around the inner tube.
     
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