Fracking and energy exploration connected to earthquakes, say studies

At a meeting where a corporate spokesmen for the fracking industry was speaking, even he wouldn't deny that it was creating earthquakes where they don't normally occur. Plus the poisons they won't disclose that we'll have to find out the hard way if it is something we should be concerned about now. Again, as long as it is our kids who deal with it who cares. Buy the corporate PR but there are plenty of concerns about this practice. Corporate America has the money to control the discussion through our pathetic excuse for journalism. Even npr has been advertising for them.

 

You blame corporations. Who's buying their products? You are. You find a way to maintain our quality of living with an alternative to this and you'll have an argument. Until then, the beast being fed is us, the general public demanding these products. Nothing is free. You want oil? Be prepared to pay a cost, whether it's environmental or financial.

 

I don't believe in our "quality of living" and live lightly using little. It is unbelievable that the boomers who lectured their parents in the 60's as materialist are the biggest hypocrites who now have more of everything and on a larger scale. The real energy solution to our energy problem is using less of it. Thanks to our economic downturn we are using less but we are also exporting our "energy security" to countries we are preparing to battle in the future as we see the chest bumping already with China. It is totally the fault of an ignorant population that has been turned into consumers and no longer citizens but corporations are driving it with all the billions of advertising and pr.

 

When I read his post, I wondered how long it would take for you to respond

Then when I read your response, I wondered how long it would take for you to understand that he was talking about the author...not you

We are full circle now!

 

Earthquakes happen every day, every hour somewhere around the world. There is no place that does not have earthquakes. Of course, creating a vacuum from extracting gas and oil will be filled by something. Using old wells to dispose of current water from current wells fills those vacuums up. It is when the over pressurized a formation that the rocks move, an earthquake. Fracking is thousands of tiny earthquakes per well, and hoping the quartz sand will hold the fisher open so that the oil and gas can flow.

It is a repeat of the attack against logging, and using the wood resources available... well the natural events are now culling those unused forest, with fire. Natural gas and oil is NOT a finite resource, but has been proven to renew, and grow near thermal hot spots. Also another location and event that causes earthquakes...

But some people just have to have a big evil corporation to attack to make themselves feel good about doing something for the kids....

Hogwash, use the resources, better your life, and the lives of those around you.

 

Yeah, just hope you don't live in those areas being covered by seawater as the glaciers melt away and soon the tundra which will accelerate the process. It is our way, I don't expect us to use reason and pretty much agree with Carlin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls8RXqyZDsk

 

Giggles,

I wasn't upset with you if your referring to my earthquake post. I'm just angry with the way California is run these days. There are some very large shales in this state and oil could create some great jobs for it's residents . As it cost both arms and 1 of your legs to live there and taxes I won't even get into that . My point is this I see what oil has done for north dakota and Texas and the silly pol's sit around and worry about a problem nobody knows for sure how or what creates earthquakes. In the meantime good employable talent leaves the state in droves.

 

Are esteemed universities (Columbia and Durham and University of Oklahoma, among just a few) all "liberal" too? These are only two (of multiple) universities whose seismologists and geoscientists, of which I believe know a bit more about the action of what causes earthquakes than anti-environmentalists and the "drill baby, drill" crowd, providing such reports.

One of the recent studies was authored by such renown and -recognized- (by conservatives well) experts in their field such as University of Oklahoma Geophysics Professor Katie Keranen, U.S. Geological Survey geophysicist Dr. Elizabeth Cochran and Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory's seismologist Dr. Heather Savage and Dr. Geoffrey Abers.

While I can't offer opinion on the causing of earhtquakes other than the empirical evidence by the aforementioned, I can most certainly offer my subjective and personal take on fracking in Pa. ... my home state of which I witnessed firsthand, damage from fracking during my hunting and fishing expeditions over the past three or four years. A land owner I know well and whose land I've hunted since I was a child back in the early '70s has suffered incredible loss and damage in SW Pa. after leasing his land for fracking.

In any event, the practice of fracking is downright damaging no matter how you slice or spin it.
http://www.ibtimes.com/fracking-saf...ter-near-shale-gas-wells-pennsylvania-1320609

Is Penn State lying too, about arsenic levels in drinking water?
http://www.thenation.com/article/174155/fracking-ourselves-death-pennsylvania#axzz2YrrJOgBl

Is the DEP lying too?

http://protectingourwaters.wordpres...homes-farms-businesses-murky-testing-methods/

The paper's attorneys filed an FOIA for the information (which had to be upheld and enforced by a judge) and the report from the DEP is detailed and absolutely frightening. The DEP acknowledges damage (poison) to drinking water supplies in 23 percent of the reported cases. Guarantee it's higher. Much higher. There have been more than 3000 violations in Pa. at fracking sites and $3.5 million in fines equaling a paltry fine of only $1,157 for EACH violation.
http://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/drilling/

It's cheaper for the company to continue polluting the land, violating safety laws and regulations and paying the fines than to change practices and do it right and responsibly.

I drive a fuel tanker and know darn well where my bread is buttered ... but my head isn't buried in the sand, either. I know enough about fracking to know it's damaging as hell to the environment and acknowledging such doesn't make one anti-business OR "liberal." People need to stop politicizing the fracking practice for their own political agenda. Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZ4LQSonXA

http://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/drilling/

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?ann...v&list=PL062539BFB8A2B2D4&src_vid=4LBjSXWQRV8

 

You need to do a little more reading and less talking. All of the chemicals pumped down hole are published and easily found. What the energy service companies won't reveal is their exact quantities or concentrations. Those are considered trade secrets. The mixture of the frac fluid has a huge effect on the quality of the frac. Therefore companies don't want to give away their "recipes".