Lease Purchase Programs?

Discussion in 'Lease Purchase Trucking Forum' started by CaptainX3, Jul 3, 2013.

  1. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    I do not know that. My guess would be that the success rate is much higher because their butt is on the line and they have much more control of their destiny. But that is just a guess on my part.

    You bring up a good point that would be interesting to know.

    I will say I cannot come up with one single reason to lease purchase. Buy the truck and do what you want with it not what someone else tells you to do with it.
     
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  3. pcfreak

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    For one, Captain, I'd get some more time behind the wheel before attempting to do a lease.

    However, if you are dead set on doing it, you should try to talk to current lease operators of the companies you are looking at. They can give you the real facts about their programs.

    I just started a lease with my company and doing real well. I get $1.04 per mile loaded or empty plus fuel surcharge. This essentially gets me $1.35 to $1.40 per dispatched mile. They take 6 cents per mile for maintenance funds and my only expense is for fuel. My fuel has been averaging .30 per mile from my $1.04. My truck payment is just over $1300 for every two weeks. After everything is said and done, I take home between $3000 to $4000 for two weeks.

    I talked to one of our drivers and he told me he has run through 4 leases with our company. I'm sure he didn't buy the trucks at lease end. Some guys just enter a lease to make more money than a company driver. Our company drivers gross .38 to .40 per mile before taxes, and I have been doing .74 per mile. Some will say that's just a glorified company driver, so be it. I enjoy what I make and how I make it.

    it would also help you if you are mechanically inclined. One of the big failures I see with others being owner/operators is that so many have no idea how to do even minor repairs and they are tied to a shop when something goes wrong.
     
  4. Boy Howdey

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    That's not a fair comparison. You said you heard 85% of leasers fail. Not 85% of leasers you know.
     
  5. leftlanetruckin

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    Sheesh Captain. Try reading some of the thousands of replies regards flease deals. The pitfalls have been covered too many times to list.
    You have been given the facts and opinions from EXPERIENCED owner operators. Take the advice or take your chances, we honestly dont care, as the attitude of most flease operators leaves a lot to be desired.
    As far as folks who have failed giving honest advise? Really? I have some ocean front property in Az if your interested....
    Fact of the matter is, it takes a big guy to admit that everyone else was right, and he was wrong. It also takes the same mentality to admit in public, that he was no where near ready to take that step into a flease deal. I have know a good dozen guys that did it, and blamed everything and everyone, but the person at fault. Themselves!
    See what I mean? Not one of those guys admitted that they should have listened, and gone a different route. It's always the companies fault, the trucks fault, the IRS's fault, and so on.

    Martin
     
  6. leftlanetruckin

    leftlanetruckin Road Train Member

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    Get at least one fact right, and please quote the post where I (supposedly) stated that 85% of fleasers fail?
    Oh, I never posted that? Say it aint so.......
    If you care for some accurate facts, read my previous post to Captain. If you want to carry on in dreamland though, I heard CRE is saving a spot just for you.

    Martin
     
  7. DragonTamerBrat

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    4/5 new businesses fail within 5 years. 85% isn't out of line. Leasing an asset, in the right situation can be a sound business decision. All those strip malls you see? Leased space. Most office space? Leased.

    Go into it with your eyes wide open, and KNOW the pitfalls. Anticipate the issues that may arise. Know that if the wheels aren't going round and round, you aren't earning anything. And you still have payments to make, even if you have downtime for any reason.
     
  8. CaptainX3

    CaptainX3 Road Train Member

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    You're definitely right there. I meet a lot of long term truck drivers that have a real attitude problem. I guess I run into problems sometimes because there is nothing that makes me angrier than someone who thinks they are better than everyone else. Because we all know they're not.

    It irritates me to no end when a driver who has been on the road for 20+ years says "I've never made a mistake or hit anything, ever." Shut up, yes you have, you just didn't admit it to anyone. EVERYONE makes mistakes. I screwed up big time my first month solo, caused some decent damage. But it was only involving company equipment and not DOT reportable, and my company was really understanding once they knew the situation.

    So I guess I am probably too defensive when it comes to other truck drivers, because I am really tired of the attitude that a lot of them display. Yes, I'm new. But that doesn't mean you're better than me. So I really don't mean to come off as badly as I do sometimes.

    I've spent most of my life making major decisions based on facts. I've always been business minded in that respect... even in my personal finances, I don't like buying anything that is not going to provide at least as much benefit as it costs. Which is probably why I'm still single... girls hate that mentality ROTFL.

    Maybe I am expecting too much from those who have failed. It's hard to admit when you screw up. But you lose all credibility when you tell someone that they can't do something and then can't tell them why. So, the only thing I can say to that is if you can't provide useful information, then don't reply. I have no use for angry people who don't contribute anything.

    Aside from all that, I consider myself a reasonably intelligent person. I can usually tell the difference between someone who is trying to be helpful, and someone who is so angry that they aren't going to be happy until everyone else is a miserable as they are.

    Posts like the one above by pcfreak are extremely helpful. His post is full of facts, and really good advice. In his opinion, I should get more experience. Whether I agree with him or not, his advice is an honest attempt to be helpful.

    I've read through A LOT of threads on here regarding leases. I started this one with the intention of getting advice and input from those who have been successful, because the hundreds of other threads out there are filled with the same basic BS, in however many words: "You're going to fail."

    To be clear, I have already made the decision that I am going to try this. I did so before I even started this thread. What I wanted out of this thread was advice on the various programs offered by the companies out there, such as which ones to avoid , and which ones give the driver that extra edge for success.

    So, if anyone has any further advice, it is appreciated. If all you have to say is negative comments with no facts or helpful advice, please leave the thread, your input is not required.
     
  9. Boy Howdey

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    Sorry, I miss quoted you. It was MJ1657 that said that.

    But its still not an equal comparison.
     
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    Business experience is VERY important for any business, but especially this one
     
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