sleeper berth question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by bryanrutledge, Aug 6, 2013.

  1. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    elog programming of the split is wrong then
    inaccurate application of the 8/2 doesn't make you correct
     
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  3. Phil S

    Phil S Light Load Member

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    My pleasure. I run a log book program on my laptop as well as READING the HOS regulations. In over 2.5 million miles and more scalehouse inspections than you can count, I have never had a logbook violation.

    However, my offer remains open: If you'd like to provide the appropriate references for your assertion, I'll acknowledge the error of my ways and bow to your greater wisdom. Yapping about it won't work.
     
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  4. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    PhilS is correct.

    Examples:

    Suppose a driver named Smith takes 10 hours off and starts driving. He drives for 6 hours and then decides to take a 2 hour nap. Those 2 hours will count against his 14 hour limit no matter where he takes them (off duty and/or sleeper). After his nap, he drives for his remaining 5 hours and is then at hour 13 out of 14 (6+2+5=13). To gain time back, Smith may either:

    Go off duty and/or in the sleeper for 10 consecutive hours; or
    Go into the sleeper berth for only 8 hours

    If he chooses to take 10 hours off, he will gain a full 11 and 14 hours. Suppose he chooses an 8-hour sleeper berth. How much driving and on-duty time does he have remaining at the end of that break? We start counting from the end of the first break (the 2 hour nap), and arrive at the following numbers:

    Driving time: 11 - 5 hours driving after the 2 hour nap = 6 hours remaining.
    Duty time: 14 - 5 hours spent after the 2 hour nap = 9 hours remaining.

    Driver Smith starts driving again.
    Suppose he uses his remaining 6 hours of driving time, has another 2 hours on duty (not driving), and wants to return to driving. At this point, he has used up his 11 hours of driving time and is at hour 13 of 14 available. To gain back driving time, Smith can either:

    Go of duty and/or in the sleeper for 10 consecutive hours; or
    Take another 2-hour break (off duty and/or sleeper).

    If he chooses the 2-hour break, how much time will he have available? Again, we start counting from the end of the first break in this next combination of breaks (the 8 hour sleeper period), and arrive at the following numbers:

    Driving time: 11 - 6 hours driving = 5 hours remaining.
    Duty time: 14 - 6 hours driving - 2 hours on duty - 2 hours off duty = 4 hours.

    Therefore, Smith can drive any part of the upcoming 4 hour period. Suppose he drives for 4 hours. To do more driving, he has the same choice to make as before: go back into the sleeper for 8 consecutive hours or go off duty and/or into the sleeper for 10.
    Suppose Smith chooses to sleep for 8 hours, but in the middle of his break goes into a truck stop for half an hour. When he completes his break, can he drive? The answer is NO, because he did not get 8 consecutive hours in the berth, so the entire 8 1/2 hour break counts against his 14 hour limit.

    Single Sleeper Periods

    Under the new rules, in contrast to the 2003 rules, a driver can use a single sleeper period to extend the 14 hour limit. That sleeper period, however, must be 8 consecutive hours long. If you take a 2-hour nap while your truck is unloaded, that time will always count against the 14 hour limit, even if you go back into the sleeper for 8 hours later in the day.
     
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  5. scarface2200

    scarface2200 Light Load Member

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    Thats how the qualcomm does my hrs. I CAN drive over my 14 if I split my break if I do a 8 I get my remaining time back whether its nit right or not ths t should fall on company we cant cheat those machines so it is not a drivers fault its the qualcomm people programing them.
     
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