Smith and Solomon?

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by NJ Newbie, Aug 12, 2013.

  1. NJ Newbie

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    Leaning towards attending the bellmawr nj location. Right now thru August 31 they have a special of 1500 off tuition. Anyone have any input on smith and Solomon?
    I also asked about contacting companies about per hiring and they told me there was no reason to unless you would have any issues that would prevent you from being hired. Is this true?
    any input would be appreciated!!
     
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  3. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    I attended smith and soloman in Lakewood nj
    that location had small student teacher ratio
    recruited at the Bellmawr location
    was impressed with the staff
    and learning to drive in greater philly will be a blessing later

    prehires mean nothing really they don't process your app until you have a license
    personally they push werner which I would stay away from
    transam is just ok to get some experience and move on
    many companies want you to lease right away DONT do it
    go as a company driver learn the ropes
     
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  4. Suzuki99

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    I just experienced a short time with Smith and Solomon (2 days) in Linden, however I had a lot of issues with the quality of the instruction. I contacted the admissions coordinator and talked to her about it and I dropped out. I only paid $150.00 (the deposit) for the 2 days of instruction. I also got the $1500 off tuition which brought the total to $2700 which seemed like a good deal. However, I quickly learned after the 2 nights that the school was definitely NOT worth anywhere near the $2700, maybe $800 tops. The classroom training consisted of simple Powerpoint presentations for 4 hours straight (YES 4 hours) and VHS videos from the mid, late 1980s. Very weak in the quality. ALL of the classroom content is easily accessible online for free (and better quality), as well as all the practice tests and answers. So the classroom end just to get your permit is a huge waste. If you get the free CDL manual from DMV or online and read that, you'll pass and get your permit easily, which is about $120 bucks by the way in NJ. There's simply no need for S&S in my opinion. Your basically paying a "school" (a small building with a small classroom for 12 students with one bathroom and a vending machine) to teach you to back, alley dock, shift, and using their truck for an hour to do a road test. You'll save yourself a ton of money if you could study the manual and go take the test at DMV yourself. Then once you have a permit, I would just go into a company sponsored CDL program that pays you while you train to get your CDL, like Prime. You'll have an employment commitment, but as long as you know that's what you want to do, I would go that route and not waste 3 grand or more on a CDL program that is low quality and dragged out. The quality of the instruction just isn't there for that kind of money. The Linden yard is also very small and you'll have little time during the day as most people are there then. You have a better shot at night, but still depends on how many people are there, you can do a lot of waiting around. Personally, I'm sticking it out at my current job for awhile. After alot of thought, the OTR lifestyle wouldn't be for me. I wouldn't mind doing local tanker work, but that takes years to get. Also if you have a bad driving record or criminal record, I wouldn't recommend trucking. All the good companies will turn you down for sure. Good Luck to ya.
     
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  5. Cranky Yankee

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    what you don't know whether it is a scam or not
    is most companies require 160 hours of training
    which part of that is the classroom prep for the permit
    insurance companies are the driving force for this

    Company sponsored CDL schools hold you hostage for a year contract
    and pay very poorly compared to poorly to recoup the training money
     
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  6. RedSince1979

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    I went to their location in North Bergen (I think that was it) a while ago. It was a good school at least when I was there. I had the advantage of driving large straight jobs (24ft flats with piggybacks) for several yrs beforehand so I only had to get used to the articulation.
     
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  7. Rich635mustang

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    What part of NJ are you from? Remember, the recruiters for the schools are salespeople. They will tell you what you want to hear. Look for a school that has a small student to teacher ratio or else you will be standing around most of the day waiting your turn to drive.
     
  8. NJ Newbie

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    Thanks for the replies guy!! I registed today. Got the physical, did the p test and start Monday. From what they told me you had to get the stuff done by today to start Monday cause the doc is only there on Tuesdays so they tell me there will be 6-7 in my class and they have 2 instructors. I'm a little nervous and excited. Atleast my family is behind me!! I'm sure ill have more questions as time goes on. I'm glad I found this forum!!
     
  9. NJ Newbie

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    im in south jersey about 15 mins from the bellmawr campus. On another note how close would you want to be to a terminal with regards to home time?
    thanks
     
  10. Rich635mustang

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    I'm also in South Jersey. I attended a school right over in New Castle, DE.

    Each company should be able to tell you if you would take their truck home with you or if you have to leave it at a terminal.
     
  11. NJ Newbie

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    if you take the truck home who is responsible for fuel for your trip home and then from home to pick up your next load?
     
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