Gunman opens fire on Illinois campus

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  1. Cybergal

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    Gunman opens fire on Illinois campus
    2/14/08
     
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  3. firstcav

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    What the heck is going on with that.

    I hope it's not an IU fan.
     
  4. WiseOne

    WiseOne Inactive contact bullhaulerswife

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    Actually, the death toll of the shooting is now at 6 as of this AM. Actually 7 if you count the demon who did it.
     
  5. Cybergal

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    College shooter stopped taking his medications
    2/15/08
     
  6. Cybergal

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    Conflicting news articles as to how many were killed...sigh
     
  7. Ronnocomot

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    Just another example of why "Gun Free Zones" should be outlawed.
     
  8. Roadmedic

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    Maybe or maybe not. If there were more people with guns legally as this guy was, there could be more shootings.

    What if many people were having guns and went off their meds?

    I have no opinion either way on this or not, but must wonder what could be the result.
     
  9. Ronnocomot

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    He wasn't legal.

    People who need "meds" to get through the day without shooting someone are already supposed to be prohibited from owning firearms.

    The class had 160 or so people in it, if 5% of those people where GI Bill students, that's eight trained gunmen shooting back. Not to mention sons and daughters of Mom's and Dad's who hunt, thereby increasing the number of possible trained folks shooting back.

    Gun Free Zones make victims of innocent people.
     
  10. Cybergal

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    10 myths about school shootings

    The profile of the gun-toting student in a trench coat is just one of the myths about the rare but murderous attacks in the nation’s schools.
    Here are 10 myths about school shootings, compiled by MSNBC.com from a 2002 study by the U.S. Secret Service and the U.S. Department of Education. The researchers studied case files and other primary sources for 37 attacks by current or former students, and also interviewed 10 of the perpetrators.

    Myth No. 1. “He didn’t fit the profile.”
    In fact, there is no profile. “There is no accurate or useful ‘profile’ of students who engaged in targeted school violence,” the researchers found.
    The stereotypes of teens in Goth makeup or other types of dress are not useful in preventing attacks. Just as in other areas of security -- workplace violence, airplane hijacking, even presidential assassination -- too many innocent students will fit any profile you can come up with, and too many attackers will not.
    “The demographic, personality, school history, and social characteristics of the attackers varied substantially,” the report said. Attackers were of all races and family situations, with academic achievement ranging from failing to excellent.
    Most, but not all, have been male, though that fact alone doesn't help an adult rule in or out someone as dangerous.

    Myth No. 2. “He just snapped.”
    Rarely were incidents of school violence sudden, impulsive acts. Attackers do not “just snap,” but progress from forming an idea, to planning an attack, to gathering weapons. This process can happen quickly, but sometimes the planning or gathering weapons are discoverable.
    Although the researchers point out that there is no "type of student" who is likely to commit such violence, there are "types of behaviors" that are common to planning or carrying out the attacks. This pattern, they say, gives some hope of intervening before an attack.

    Myth No. 3. “No one knew.”
    Before most of the attacks, someone else knew about the idea or the plan. "In most cases, those who knew were other kids: friends, schoolmates, siblings and others. However, this information rarely made its way to an adult." Most attackers engaged in some behavior prior to the incident that caused concern or indicated a need for help.

    MSNBC>>>>>>
     
  11. Roadmedic

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    The article clearly states that the weapon was purchased legally.

    There is no way of knowing what type of meds would stop someone from shooting someone from owning a gun. I have no idea of what you mean here.

    Now, consider all of the adrenaline released with your 5% theory. There would be all kinds of additional injuries. Ricochet, mis-aimed firing, blind fear firing.
     
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