Quallcomm & HOS

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by LeftEyeDaTruckr, Sep 1, 2013.

  1. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    You had time to delivery. If the delivery was 11 miles away and you had 10 minutes and you stopped my truck you would be looking for a ride to the yard. Listen to your mentor that is why he is there.. You only have to get to the city the delivery is in and you can go to on duty line 4. as long as you do not leave that city. Stop at 10 minutes, add a line to your logbook as pee stop and do not go back to line 3 stay on line 4. Multiple stops same city can be listed as in duty .
     
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  3. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    That makes awhole lot of since.Learn something new pertaining to logs.
     
  4. Casual Trucker

    Casual Trucker Medium Load Member

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    Honestly the best answer for this type of situation especially when you are dealing with a trucking "GURU" (Mentor)(Trainer) is to ask them to give you these orders,suggestion,Brain Farts. In WRITING
    This way you R OFF The HOOK
     
  5. Jumbo

    Jumbo Road Train Member

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    How is he going to do that on an elog? I am sure that is why he was asking about getting a HOS violation from Qualcom. I don't think he was staring at his watch, he was watching the little countdown clock in the corner.
     
  6. abn75

    abn75 Light Load Member

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    That doesn't work with elogs. He did the right thing.

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  7. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Obviously PJ you don't use e-logs or know anything about how they work. Your explanation will only "work" when on a paper log, and even at that, your example of the "city limit rule" [which is just another coffee counter clutch group falsehood].
    1. E-log (QuallComm) will automatically go to Line 3 (driving) once the truck has achieved the speed set by the company. 5mph, 10mph, or whatever!
    2. If you are "driving", you are DRIVING! The log exception is for local, or multiple stops within a city limit. A driver may combine the time driving within a city limit and condense to one section of Line 3 the total time. Also combining the times to unload/load at multiple locations within a cities limits.

    To the OP....
    You did the right thing by stopping! Actually, at the 1 hour mark (the orange exclamation mark/circle lit up on the unit) the unit advised you of the time frame you were pushing. Once the 1 hour point has been lit, you should have been seeking safe shelter. If this means your Mentor thinks he/she must get up and start driving to meet his/her mile goal or to make sure the delivery schedule is met...then he/she needs to get up and go to work! Since you alerted to the 1 hour mark, one could assume, your Mentors 10 hour rest break had been achieved, and he/she should be legal to continue. If not...well the truck can sit for whatever time his 10 hour break needs to complete his/her time.

    The Safety/Log department get an alert when any infraction occurs on all trucks. What the parameters for penalty is decided by each company. Swift Policy on this should have been covered in your orientation, or at least addressed in your Driver's Manual. If not, the next terminal you get to, go to the Log personnel and ask. Tell them what happened, and they will advise you as to company Policy.

    The Mandatory 30 minute break (within the first 8 hours since coming on duty) [as I call it "mandy"] violation carries an 8 point violation score (driver score), first year 24 points, 2nd year 16 points, and 3rd year 8 points...after the 3rd year it falls off your record.
     
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  8. paul_4lp

    paul_4lp Road Train Member

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    I would of ran out the 10 min..you would of been within a mile or so , go off duty then drive into delivery ,as most Elogs give u 2 miles before changing to drive line

    This is a time management issue as well ...when your solo you'll have no one to take over driving because you don't think you can make it in...
     
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  9. mickeyrat

    mickeyrat Road Train Member

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    Driver, it is your log. Your fine. Your other penalties. No one elses. IMO you did the right thing.

    I'm also surprised that you are considered in "team phase" as a trainee? Anything for a buck I guess. Good luck to you. When you do go solo, do it right. The right thing is much easier to remember than the wrong(lies) things.
     
  10. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    I know it.I forget about the elogs.Have'nt had them in yrs.
     
  11. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Was/is he supposed to idle the truck down the freeway? That distance (again set by company, all are not the same) is set up for a driver to idle around a shipper/receiver to get to or from a dock, to find a spot to drop a trailer, or to find a specific trailer to hook to...not to be idling (basically) down some city street or highway!

    11 miles away with 10 minutes left.....what if a car (or another truck) stalls out or gets a flat and blocks your path....there goes the 10 minutes. We don't know if the 10 minutes was only for drive time or is it was his 14 hour clock expiring.
     
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