Another good laugh from TQL

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by areelius, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    I think that a lot of this freight is stuff that doesn't really need to move right away. I see the same loads posted day after day. Then if they sit until they absolutely HAVE to move, a somewhat fair rate magically appears in the posting. If they can get the load moved early and cheap, then they win big. Can't really blame TQL for that.
     
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  3. Big Jay

    Big Jay Light Load Member

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    So......you go to Laredo this time of year for what, at first glance appears to be not enough money, and you cannot find a load that pays what you deserve to get out of there and you come on to this forum and blame the broker?

    A novel concept. New to this forum as well. Interesting.

    Blame the broker if I am not good enough at business to haul a lower paying load or put it in the wind to get to good freight. I think everyone should take your approach.......

    And sir, believe me when I tell you I have never pulled 1.20 dollar freight......I have however calculated my deadhead to a good area prior to taking ANY load and refused to blame anyone else for an error I made.
     
  4. Tobytob

    Tobytob Light Load Member

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    BIG JAY, LMAO. I find characters like you very comical, so I will keep this short. Assumptions are for a-hole!!!!!!!! With that being said you don't know me or my business practices. You can Assume the rate was cheap into laredo, by your standards I'm sure it was. None the less, this is my truck and trailer, therefore I can care-less what you think. If you think getting a good rate to cover your deadhead out of a area is good business then by all means truck away. Just stay in your lane!!!

    Let me ask you something, what does me being new to a forum have to do with the experience I have? LOL

    Truckers as a whole need to get rid of this I cant go there this time of year. WHY? Freight moves daily 365 days a year from every market. Yes some is seasonal but not all. Stop letting these brokers brain wash you with this seasonal, bad area for freight non sense or thats all we have in it. There is no other business in this country that operates at a loss like some truckers do. There is money on every load, if the load is cheap thats because you made it cheap not the broker. Everything has gone up in the last 10 years of trucking except the rates.
     
  5. gokiddogo

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    You got to think at it a little more than just your total miles and total revenue. It makes more sense to drive some empty to the same total revenue in two ways.

    Example: Load from ChicagoIL to DenverCO. 1,004 miles. The load will pay let's say $2500. There are also loads from say, Iowa CityIA to DenverCO that also pay $2500. Which load would you rather do?

    Remember it costs you less money in tires and fuel going empty than it does loaded. Also think about it this way - how would you do if you took a load from Chicago to Iowa city for x dollars then picked up your good load from Iowa City to Denver for that $2,500? This is why triangles or even 4,5, whatever segment trips will almost always trump the straight through-haul. It is just a matter of knowing where you are at, what you want to accomplish, where you want to run. Always be thinking about your next move. It is kinda like chess. Plus, doing this helps to negotiate rates UP.

    This is just an example. I have no idea what the rates are on any of these lanes.
     
  6. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    If you are hauling broker freight, chances are it is spot market freight and is not contract freight. Which makes it subject to spot market prices. Lots of available trucks, you can cry all you want. When it swings the other way, it works in your favour. Just position yourself accordingly. I like to follow the money. For example, running reefer through the PNW pays pretty well and is steady for me through the winter time thanks to all the "drivers" who won't run anything north of I-40 as soon as the temperature drops below 50. Haven't you learned where to go by what times of year? Or do you just figure that it all should pay well regardless of truck demand? If you think brokers are just raking it in, remember there are loads of brokers essentially playing the same game we are playing. They are cutting each others rates also, working on thinner and thinner margins all the time. If they were just raking it in as you claim then why don't you become one?
     
  7. Tobytob

    Tobytob Light Load Member

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    Here we go, As stated. I will let you guys assume all you want. Spot market, no market or stock market. Believe what you wanna believe. I stand behind every thing I do and say. I don't shot from the hip, Nor do I desire to be a broker. Supply and Demand doesn't mean a truck should go for broke It's called economics!!

    I refuse to hi-jack this thread. This thread is about TQL and its non sense. Some people have good experiences while other don't. If you wanna talk TQL i'm all ears...
     
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  8. VIAJERO1A

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    I refuse to hi-jack this thread. This thread is about TQL and its non sense. Some people have good experiences while other don't. If you wanna talk TQL i'm all ears...[/QUOTE]

    RATS !! JUST WHEN THINGS WHERE GETTING INTERESTING... When I am bored, I always turn to TQL for comedy time.
     
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  9. Sly Fox

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    Of all brokers, why are you calling TQL and using their lowball offers? If every other broker you've called is giving you crap rates out of a withering market, why are you singling out TQL?

    Sure, they're bad. And have their reasons for ridicule. But, I very rarely deal with them. And I tell them my rate. they don't like it. I move on or move out.

    You can always deadhead from bad markets. Pulling that cheap load instead of hightailing it to better paying freight means you've kept the market price low.
     
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  10. windsmith

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    Because when they can't get a truck to accept that lowball offer, they call me back because they know that 1: I won't accept a lowball offer from them or anyone else, and 2: I'm probably still sitting there waiting for them to call me and accept my FAIR offer to move their freight - because I didn't capitulate to another broker's lowball offer.

    You can be sure that TQL maintains a history file on every carrier that they do business with. And I know that MY file has zero blemishes. I deliver on my promises, and they know it when my carrier profile history hits their screen. THAT is what counts when they MUST perform for one of their best customers. Sure, they may take a big hit when they pay a fair rate to move that load, but they definitely can cover it with the profits that they earn from ignorant carriers willing to haul their crap for cheap rates.

    Me? I'll be the reliable 'go-to' guy that gets paid what he's worth when it counts.

    When I call TQL on a load and give them my MC number (they always ask before discussing rates), the seasoned brokers will immediately let me know (indirectly) if the load is something I want, or something that I should pass on.
     
  11. dannythetrucker

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    Is this confirmed or speculative ? Judging by the response I get when offering my MC# I suspect they are basically doing a quick check if I am set up and/or blacklisted or something. I don't doubt that there is more data there to be dug through, it just seems it would take them a bit more time and I would get a little different response if there was actually some performance record staring them in the face. I don't think I've ever failed on a TQL load in any fashion that I can remember, and, I admit I've hauled more than my fair share ! Some for decent rates and a few last winter for not so decent rates. Of course I've also banged around with a few of their brokers pretty good on loads we couldn't agree on, wonder if there is any record of that ?

    Again, curious if you have confirmation of this or just assuming, do you think they have some type of scoring system or something ? It would be curious to know exactly what does pop up when the MC# is entered.
     
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