I seek ya-all's wisdom -- I've a 1998 international 3406-e Cat - since 2000 -- at 1,275, 000 - oil in the water - I had a Cat rebuild in march - within days we saw drips of oil on those 4" air lines to the intercooler and from the cooler to the intake manifold - removal showed more oil on the inside - turbo looked clean entrance and exit to cooler looked clean - oil vapor ?? sorta figured something pushing through the turbo -- didn't really use any oil { quart for 2,000 miles } figured turbo -- after a couple months - Cat said they haven't seen the like before {we won't get started on the " low nox" programming they shoved in - at the rebuild time they flashed me up to 550 - 1850 from my original 475 1750 - I went from 7mpg to 6mpg - runs uphill worse now than when I came in } changed turbos - same oil drips within 200 miles - checked return line cleaned filters again - 3rd turbo - same thing - put back on original borg warner had on for 2 years up to rebuild - of course nothings changed - got 30,000 on now -- starting to think vapor is coming from the intake side ??? - If I go to Cat - I know they will say spend 4 grand - put a Cat turbo on - then they might begin to honor the warranty and go looking for trouble -- any ideas at there ----------- thanks, dizzyacres2
blowby????
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blowby is caused by worn or broken piston rings. a motor that old should have a hose running down the side of the engine. usually the passengers side. if you have blowby. you'll have smoke coming from that hose.
that hose is where the crankcase pressure vents into the atmoshpere.
i drove a 99 pete with cat engine. it was on the drivers side of teh motor though. originally it was on some type of valve about halfway up the block. but it was a design flaw where as oil would leak out that valve. the solution was to put a oil cap on it. blocking off the hole. and swap out the middle valve cover for a vented cover. and route the blowby hose to the cover.
part of the engine design flaw also was the fact that cat used undersized pistons.
after figuring out the oil drain from cat. and running with serious blowby for 6 months. the engine finally got torn down. and 6 broken piston rings were seen.Last edited: Sep 3, 2013
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A boost leak will cause a turbo to pass oil into the intake because lack of pressure on the seal. I would pressurize your charge air system and check for leaks.
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thanks for the comeback -- the engine rebuild 30, 000 miles back is when the symptoms began - we'll keep digging -- dizzyacres
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I like it - another guy mentioned that even though it shows proper boost when pushed - the charge air may still leaking when just cruising - when I get home - yeah - worth checkin -- thanks for the comeback -- dizzyacres
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If you suspect the clamps are loose and leaking, use a inch pound torque wrench and tighten air to air clamps at 100 inch pounds. If your air compressor is run off of the inlet to engine, take it off and add an external filter for the air compressor. They had a tendency to dump oil into intake when the unloader valves were unloading.
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Thanks - shade tree - i'm headin back to dizzyacres to test that compressr theory also -
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Hello folks; -- checked compressor intake - clean as a whistle - air box in engine - no blow-by -- checked CAC - 30 lbs - only lost 1lb per 3 minutes - not bad -- back to the 1st problem suspected - turbo - even though the 2nd turbo leaked also - it did blow up in the first 1,200 miles - oh well --- thanks folks
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Something that came to mind is have you pulled the cold housing off to see if the seals on the turbo appear to be leaking? Something to look at also when the housing is off is to see if there has been any contact with the impellear into the housing itself.
This may bring light to several things. I have seen on a rare instance where the turbo allowed enough pressure to leak into the crankcase that it caused a high blowby condition. If there is any dampness at all on the cold side of the impeller wheel the seals are leaking.
The poor fuel mileage can be coming from an improperly set overhead. If the exhaust valves are set as tight as to thousands too tight it will effect pull down power in the hills and cause a low power condition. Low power in the hills equals poor fuel mileage. You have a tendency to keep your foot into it more than you would if the hold in power was correct. -
Shade Tree -- I will check the turbo interior tomorrow - I removed the compressor - the intake and housing was clean as a whistle -- no blowing oil out of manifold - for now I'll except that the crappy btg turbo { 3 years old } is probably taking a dump - -- would you happen to know the proper B/W #s for a decent turbo - I got this turbo from a shop that got it saying " borg-Warner" - not so much -- I'm just trying to avoid $2,300 at PP
Thanks, dizzyacres
P.S. has anyone gotten a hold of Mr. Hanney lately - - again, wanting some ecm work -- thanks, dizzyacres
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