Hello Guys.
Would like some assistance in regards to this question that I have. I run paper logs for a company that I work with. They have me a little scared because my Safety Manager is telling me to run a local logbook like this(below).
I know that if we are to run local, typically we would need to run a time sheet but that's not the case because typically, most of my days consist of being out more then 100 air mile radius. Is this logbook considered valid?
Thank you and looking forward to your assistance guys.
Clarification on Logbook. Please Advise.
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by TheManJay, Sep 15, 2013.
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The only way that logbook would be valid is if you were within the same city for the entire day.
Otherwise you are mandated by regs to document every change of duty status AND the location.
In other words time spent driving should be reflected on the drive line. Time performing other duties should be logged as "on duty not driving." -
That log sheet is absolutely legal, provided the unseen part includes the necessary info below:
We were audited back in May and the auditor had no issues with our drivers who used this method for days they stayed within the 100 air-mile radius.MJ1657 Thanks this. -
There is a 150 mile rule as well, and remember the 100 mile rule is AERIAL miles. Take a pen, on a map measure the scale, measure out 100 miles from your home terminal and draw a circle. You could drive 500 miles in a day and not break the 100 mile rule. The 100 mile rule states that the only time you need to log is if you work more than 12 hours in a day.
You still have to follow the rules that OTR drivers face. Lets say that every day you drive your personal vehicle to the yard and punch a time card. You go and PT your truck and hook up to your first trailer of the day. Drive it to the delivery and have to unload it. Your PT and unload is on duty not driving time. You finish your day. You HAVE to be at the terminal, clocked out by the end of the 12 hour period on the same day you clocked in. Then you don't have to log. Anything outside those perimeters requires you to log daily.
Lets say this is your standard day, but one day you are running late and don't clock out until 3:30 giving you 12.5 hours on the day. You have to log THAT day. Again, have to have a 30 minute break within the first 8 hours and no more than 11 hours driving, 14 total on duty. -
I believe the fact that the OP readily admits to exceeding the 100 air mile radius exemption on a regular basis would invalidate that type of logging. He should also have to take a 30 minute off duty break prior to "driving" the truck after 8 hours "on duty."
Furthermore auditors do not necessarily hammer a company on every little violation they find on a logbook. A roadside DOT officer will glady write the driver a ticket for not completing the logbook correctly.
Bottom line is this; Companies can require "stricter" rules or guidelines for logging but they cannot make rules which run contrary to the regs.
The best rule to follow is always "log it like you did it." -
This is only relevant if under the fmcsa rules. Many states have rules that are up to 150 miles.jlkklj777 Thanks this. -
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You DO NOT have to be within same city to use a RODS in the way the OP showed. -
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