When asked to run illegally...

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by leadman, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    You can use the 16 hour exemption for non-CDL vehicles. The rules are for non-CDL vehicles. It doesn't matter if it is commercial or not. That end they didn't violate anything unless he worked a 16 hour day outside paragraph (B) below.

     
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  3. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Condo Crusier, thank you for correcting me. I do not have any non-cdl trucks under my control so I assumed, and you know what that means, that the 150 mile non-cdl exemption was worded and worked just like the 100 mile exemption for cdl drivers with a 12 hour duty cycle limit on the rods exception. I have not kept up with the non-cdl changes, I was aware of the two 16 hour duty cycles available for non-cdl just like there is one 16 hour day available to local (100 mile) cdl drivers provided that they leave from and return to the same location every day for the last 5 days.
     
  4. Mississippi Medicineman

    Mississippi Medicineman Bobtail Member

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    "AWWW now.... you know your truck runs good enough that can make it in that amount of time."

    (least that's what I was always told)

    Seems like the faster the truck the lower the wages and the more "corner cutting" they expect you to do.
     
  5. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Well you did the right thing. Just tell them no and go home. If they suspended you for doing that, then obviously they don't really want you driving there anyway. Tell the boss to drive his own truck when he expects you to return, then follow it with a week or two vacation. Don't ask for this up front, just tell them that is what you are doing when you walk through the door. Without you driving his truck he will make no money. It seems like he has forgotten that.
     
  6. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    A bit of advice about things like this, document document and document everything.

    If you have dates times and places, plus any other information like phone logs and qualcomm messages (they can be pulled up later on), then you have the proof to back your claim up against theirs.
     
  7. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    That's why I asked where he was when told to be in NJ next day. From a dispatchers standpoint, he may NOT have known he worked till 8pm, without knowing how many hours it is to NJ. drop, it MAY be a misunderstanding.

    I used to have drivers tell me all the time, I will be in point a tom. morning, so I plan the next day accordingly, only to find out, the driver never made it where he said he was going to be.

    Need to know the other side of the story, unless of course if this is an every week occurrence, then, obviously, something needs to be done.

    The OP has been here since April,,,,,,,, with 8 posts?
     
  8. Chaos268

    Chaos268 Light Load Member

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  9. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    I have no problem telling the brokers it can't be done legally. They all seem to think you've had absolutely nothing to do all day but pickup and run their load.
     
  10. 281ric

    281ric Road Train Member

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    well said, after all the driver is responsible if anything should happen. I dont think the driver would get too much pity from law enforecement by saying " well so and so told me to do it."
     
  11. saddleup

    saddleup Light Load Member

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    also you are not allowed to jump back and forth, once on a log book always on a log book, you can't do both and be legal
     
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