Hey guys,
I am a new owner operator of about 7 months now. I am looking to get another customer, the one I deal with now sets the rates. And they do not change. They are good rates, I am loaded both ways always with right around 80,000 lbs. But I get paid between $3.00 and $4.00 P/m It's all under 65 mile radius though.
The new customer wants me to set rates and bid against a large local trucking company it't all 53 ft dry van loads of food. with around a 2-3 hour average load time. *but taking note they do allow you to leave a trailer there to be loaded. They jockey it to the dock and load it when ready to be loaded. They operate 24/7 and load times are different for every load or order
Below is what they want me to come up with prices for. I am only 14 miles from there location
Any idea how I go about setting the rates, and maybe what they should be? Any help would be great, I don't want to look like a fool when I turn in my rates.
City State Zip miles 13 Week Vol
DOVER DE 19902 111 1
New Castle DE 19720 95 1
SMYRNA DE 19977 98 8
ABERDEEN MD 21001 53 1
ABERDEEN PROVING GRMODUND21005 56 1
BALTIMORE MD 21213 60 26
BALTIMORE MD 21230 62 7
BALTIMORE MD 21133 60 2
Baltimore MD 21227 66 12
BELCAMP MD 21017 52 2
Capitol Heights MD 20743 102 4
CHEVERLY MD 20781 94 2
####eysville MD 21030 132 3
Federalsburg MD 21632 141 1
Frederick MD 21701 119 4
Hagerstown MD 21740 76 4
HAGERSTOWN MD 21742 74 126
Hanover MD 21076 77 6
JESSUP MD 20794 126 9
LANDOVER MD 20785 100 53
New Windsor MD 21776 52 6
Odenton MD 21113 82 3
PERRYMAN MD 21130 62 3
Rockville MD 20855 93 4
Suitland MD 20746 107 5
Upper Marlboro MD 20772 102 9
UPPER MARLBORO MD 20774 101 634
Williamsport MD 21795 104 21
BRIDGEPORT NJ 08014 81 18
Budd Lake NJ 07828 171 5
BURLINGTON NJ 08016 109 328
CARLSTADT NJ 07072 173 73
Carney's Point NJ 08069 80 8
CARTERET NJ 07008 155 137
Clifton NJ 07014 172 8
Dayton NJ 08810 140 38
EDISON NJ 08818 149 1
edison NJ 08817 139 69
Elizabeth NJ 07201 162 112
Elizabeth NJ 07208 158 1
Elmwood Park NJ 07407 176 10
Florence NJ 08518 105 1
Gibbstown NJ 08027 85 20
HILLSIDE NJ 07205 157 1
HOWELL NJ 07731 142 3
IRVINGTON NJ 07111 185 1
Jackson NJ 08527 139 2
Jersey City NJ 07304 166 6
JERSEY CITY NJ 07305 168 2
Kearny NJ 07032 171 1
Keasbey NJ 08832 170 3
Lakewood NJ 08701 147 6
Linden NJ 07036 171 4
Lumberton NJ 08048 112 21
MONMOUTH JUNCTION NJ 08852 127 2
Moonachie NJ 07074 175 10
Neptune NJ 07753 152 4
New Brunswick NJ 08901 182 2
North Bergen NJ 07047 171 7
PATERSON NJ 07524 174 7
Paterson NJ 07503 170 5
PEDRICKTOWN NJ 08067 87 2
Pennsauken NJ 08110 152 2
PERTH AMBOY NJ 08861 151 18
PINE BROOK NJ 07058 171 13
Piscataway NJ 08854 146 9
SADDLE BROOK NJ 07662 175 3
SECAUCUS NJ 07094 171 19
South Hackensack NJ 07606 176 18
South Plainfield NJ 07080 176 10
Swedesboro NJ 08085 113 31
THOROFARE NJ 08086 90 3
TOTOWA NJ 07512 166 62
TRENTON NJ 08618 111 1
UNION NJ 07083 155 4
VINELAND NJ 08360 113 24
West Caldwell NJ 07006 166 15
West Trenton NJ 08628 117 2
Westampton NJ 08060 155 9
BEDFORD HEIGHTS OH 44146 340 396
ABBOTTSTOWN PA 17301 24 1
ALLENTOWN PA 18103 83 6
Allentown PA 18109 89 23
Allentown PA 18106 83 2
Bedford PA 15522 130 2
Bensalem PA 19020 100 2
Berwick PA 18603 125 74
BETHLEHEM PA 18020 92 6
Bethlehem PA 18017 96 1929
BLOOMSBURG PA 17815 108 22
BREINIGSVILLE PA 18031 79 81
BRIDESBURG PA 19137 99 3
CHAMBERSBURG PA 17201 81 34
Claysburg PA 16625 144 23
COAL TOWNSHIP PA 17866 89 23
DENVER PA 17517 103 1
DU BOIS PA 15801 180 109
EASTON PA 18045 100 5
EBENSBURG PA 15931 174 1
EPHRATA PA 17522 32 10
Fairless Hills PA 19030 105 25
Greencastle PA 17225 89 6
HANOVER PA 17331 29 24
HARRISBURG PA 17110 35 6
Harrisburg PA 17112 36 1
HARRISBURG PA 17109 36 1
HARRISBURG PA 17111 31 20
Hazleton PA 18201 114 17
HAZLETON PA 18202 114 3
LANCASTER PA 17601 17 1
LEBANON PA 17042 37 2
LEOLA PA 17540 28 8
Mechanicsburg PA 17055 34 9
Milton PA 17847 97 46
Mountville PA 17554 10 6
PARK JESSUP PA 18434 161 6
PHILADELPHIA PA 19116 100 2
Philadelphia PA 19128 85 5
Philadelphia PA 19131 84 13
Philadelphia PA 19122 91 2
Philadelphia PA 19148 92 18
Philadelphia PA 19129 90 1
PITTSBURGH PA 15205 234 565
Pittsburgh PA 15235 236 3
Pittston PA 18640 146 4
POTTSTOWN PA 19464 71 41
POTTSVILLE PA 17901 87 19
READING PA 19605 50 15
ROBESONIA PA 19551 54 7
Somerset PA 15501 160 4
Stroudsburg PA 18360 133 1
TAYLOR PA 18517 152 179
Tobyhanna PA 18466 149 157
Tremont PA 17981 78 39
UNIVERSITY PARK PA 16802 123 4
WILKES-BARRE PA 18705 141 5
WOODLAND PA 16881 158 16
YORK PA 17404 12 2
York PA 17403 10 3
YORK PA 17406 6 19
Alexandria VA 22304 107 9
ARLINGTON VA 22211 102 1
Ashland VA 23005 196 19
Fairfax VA 22031 109 1
Fredericksburg VA 22408 160 4
Fredericksburg VA 22406 154 16
Front Royal VA 22630 163 46
FT BELVOIR VA 22060 123 6
SALEM VA 24153 322 135
STERLING VA 20166 117 4
Winchester VA 22602 147 4
Making Rates
Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by Chase-Logistics, Sep 26, 2013.
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Pick the places you want to go, offer a rate to those places, comparable to what you get now..Concentrate on developing a return load system. I would not bid on all of them, just the ones I am familiar with.You can always add other lanes.. Sounds like he is possibly just using you to work a better deal with his current hauler.Do not go too low, be careful.
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Looks like all of those are short runs.
If they're grocery warehouses, then the loading time of 2-3 hours could pale in comparison to 8 hour waits and then lumper fees, etc.
I'd ask about that, and if it were going to be like that, I'd run farrrr away, because there's nothing I can stand less than waiting, and waiting, and waiting.
However, if it's a quick unload, and it's one load for you per day, then I'd not be too worried about backhauls, since it's short runs, unless you do VA then I might - you might could get a really good rate from down in VA back to Philly, but not too sure on that right now.
I always figured if I was an O/O I'd want to make $750/day minimum, whether using a lot of fuel or just a little.
Figure $1000 - $1200 fixed expenses per week, and then say $600 - $800 for fuel, = $1.600 - $2,000, your profit would be $1,750 - $2,150, average out to $1,900 a week for doing local work, not too bad for being home every night.
I could, of course, be wayyyy off base, but this is just what my thought process would be from reading and learning on this forum.
Maybe Rollin Coal might contribute his opinions, but he'd tell you to charge no less than $1200 per day. LOL
However, if it's 2 loads per day, then I'd go ahead and be thinking $600 per load, or $1200 per day anyways. Or maybe something like $500 per load plus fuel surcharge both there and back (loaded and empty) which I think the national FSC rate is somewhere close to 50 cpm.
And make them sure to know that you'd be a dedicated truck for them, and that they know that you're not out looking for a backhaul, and taking time when you could be getting that 2nd shipment in. Offer your dedicated services, and they'll pay for it, but the biggest thing for them besides price is peace of mind, knowing that you're going to be there for the next load, and not having to hope Werner can find a driver with available hours that happens to be nearby that is empty, and knowing that it's going to be you there each time and not some random noob straight out of CDL school wearing mustard and chili stained wife beaters. -
I would never tell anyone that but this thread is not about me. I don't know anything about the York, PA market. It's possible OP has an opportunity here to make some very good bank. It's also possible everyone and their brother (locally) knows about this place and the customer has a steady stream of o/o who want to be home daily/often. Who knows???
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