3406 DITA not firing on all cylinders

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  1. jorlee

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    Had a old engine, was putting coolant out overflow. Bought a used 3406a with susposedly 50K on a rebuild. finished installing it.

    It doesn't appear to be firing on 5 and 6.

    Not real keen on injection systems.

    Not sure how to proceed.
     
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  3. jorlee

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    Tomorrow I will take the valve cover off. It appears to be ticking from there now.
     
  4. MrMatt

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    sounds like bad injectors or stuck engine brake. so while you have it appart. and you are checking the top end. you might want to go ahead and replace the wiring harness for the injectors and engine brake. a new wiring harness is a couple of hundred dollars. and about 8 hours to install it. and it's worth it to replace it now. the 3406 cats have a problem with the wiring harness in the head going out. and causeing miss fires or dead injectors. so if you have the old engine out of the truck. you will want to keep the engine brakes and injectors off of it.
     
  5. wore out

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    If its a 3406A DITA it will be all mechanical except jakes. I do agree if its ticking under the cover pull it and make sure nothing is stuck or loose. Then run engine and crack fuel lines coming out of pump to injector one at a time. You will notice a pronounced miss when you crack a line on a good cylinder. Pay very close attention to hwo far open you turn each nut and how much fuel squirts out. If the ones missing are spraying out noticeably less fuel problem is most likely in the plungers in the pump. If amount of fuel is about the same its probably injectors. When those engines set up any rust that is in the pump body can come loose and usually stops up the plunger or gathers on top of injector where line connects, either way usually just a dissassemble and clean up does the trick.
     
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  6. jorlee

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    I've finally got back to this. Took injectors out. Fuel nozzels are clean. Have two different part numbers. Number five appears to not be sealing very well. Six looked ok. Re assembled and still not firing on either. IR temp gun even says they are cold. Fuel appears to be equal when cracking lines.
     
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    I would pull nozzles again and take them to a fuel injection shop to be tested. If a nozzle was leaking compression due to not sealing it could make a ticking noise for sure. Also I would install correct nozzles per engine serial number its possible to have the wrong spray pattern. If nozzles test good all you can do is a compression test at that point.
     
  8. oilfieldtrash

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    Hey wore out- what transmission do you really have? Eaton never made an 1800 series RTOO. Sorry not trying to hijack.
    jorlee whats the serial number on the engine? I look it up and see what injectors it calls for.
     
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    RT0014613 didn't realize it said 18 instead of 16 shows what kind of attention I pay. FWIW I turned mine around its not a factory Eaton RTOO.
     
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    Ok. Saw what you said and wondered if it was somehow a custom updated version that somebody came up with. RTOO's are fast for sure. I miss mine. I'm just running an 18 speed now and I sure miss that last big hole that the RTOO has.
     
  11. jorlee

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    Dang subscribtion email fail.

    Newer engine
    8SB00234
    OR2519
    400hp
    OTS5122
    Refernence NO
    92U56000
    1W2434

    Old engine
    92U32472
    9N5505
    380 hp

    Decided to take lines completely off pump to see how much fuel was coming out. Cracking lines wasn't good enough. Way less fuel being put out on 5 and 6. Was basically 1,2,3,4 make big mess when taken off. 5,6 combined might equal one of the others. I was deceived before.

    Thinking of putting old injection pump on new engine, with the old injectors and see what happens. Don't want to buy a compression guage.
     
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