Log Off Duty Driving Home Empty
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by J.R., Oct 18, 2013.
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I might not be. P.S. I hate PC.Roadmedic Thanks this.
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that might be a little complicated. as far as who owns the truck part.
i'm paying for the truck, i'm paying for the insurance, i'm paying for the fuel. i'm the dispatcher. and it's the weekend. i've delivered my load. have nowhere to go. so i'm going somewhere. or home, if the case may be. with the trailer. because i can't just leave it. i more then likely won't be going back to the same place.
bascially. i'm empty. i'm done. i'm off duty. and i got no load plans. if i have to pc just so i can drive somewhere. then so be it.
our truck is our home. and our car. it's kind of a bunch of BS that we need permission to drive our motorhome somewhere. even if i want to go home. 500 miles away.
i can see sticky points on all sides.
as for terminals. not all of us have a dedicated terminal so to speak. or any terminal for that matter.
we have an office. that we don't always see or go to or stop in to.
my first 2 companies. when i was done. i'm off duty and going home. those 2 companies were home every weekend. but the off duty part also depended on my next load and where it's going. but most times i was basically done. and had no next week plan yet.
where i'm at now. there was a driver that went home from phoenix to wisconsin. he did the pc thing and got popped in kansas. why he went that far to home empty i'll never know. but the company was on his side and argued with kansas. i don't know the outcome though.
then there are times. like last week for example. where i picked up a load. in a town that had ABSOLUTELY nothing. no parking, no motels, no nothing for trucks. i spent 5 hours at the shipper. to which flatbeds don't normally spend that much time. the closest truckstop was 90 miles away. i got 10 miles shy before the clock ran out. and pc'd the rest of the way.
by the way. it was friday. so i'm looking for a 34 some place. since i didn't have any recap hours to really go anywhere for saturday and sunday.Last edited: Oct 20, 2013
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This thread brings up a question I asked my husband about just the other day.....we make the truck payment and pay all the bills, but we can only drive off-duty for as long as we have hours left on our 14?? and it can't be more than 3hrs a day......I am assuming that this is a company policy, but only L/O's and O/O's have the line 5, so why are we restricted?..........we are always BT when driving off-duty.
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When I was leased to Mercer they said that we are allowed to run home empty (with a trailer) and to just mark it down in the log book as personal conveyance to (put your city state here). I did that more than once from Seattle back to Iowa, and several times from points out east back to Iowa.
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so, you're saying we need to actually fill in the blanks as to what we're doing on pc?????
musicgal, if you got a box. and that vehicle is moving. you're either logged driving, or personal conveyance. can't move that vehicle off duty. can't says for the company but it shouldn't matter if your l/o, o/o, or company. everybody needs to take their motorhome SOMEWHERE at SOME point and time. without the gooberment permission. -
Easy solution to play it safe log it as you do it to get home then shred it write it up as pc once your there just my .002
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These guys might have e-logs.
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I have a question, What do you guys tell the DOT man when he asks "How did your vehicle get from here to there if you were off duty?"
I usually go home empty, I'm independent and own all my equipment, If I can log "returning home empty" as off duty it would solve all my log issues, sounds too good to be true. -
Thank goodness for paper logs, I log everything even personal time driving but then I am only out during the day.
I have never tried the personal use excuse since no matter how I go or come into Tampa scales must be crossed and plenty of roadside DOT are roaming around.
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