Blow outs?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by dogchimp, Nov 15, 2013.

  1. wore out

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    I have a 53 foot transcraft spread Thursday morning I blew left inside rear dual, knew it instantly. Nothing on but the trailer by the way. Have also lost tires on my 52 foot Merritt Cattle Drive pott trailer. There is no mistaking that feeling sends a vibration up in cab you cant miss. I realize he runs super singles and I don't surely that wouldn't make a difference.

    What most likely happened is he hit a small piece of steel in the road that punctured this tire. The air left it pretty fast so it didn't get hot and blow out. However you run it flat bout 2 miles the side walls will get really soft and some holes. It came off rim in a turn cause it was soft. They don't vibrate hardly at all when this happens just makes a low tire roar that your right 53 foot away is hard to hear.

    Experience will bring this kind of knowledge. Being in tune with your truck will bring the some thing isn't right feel to you 53 foot away. Listening to a driver with 40 years experience will make life easier. Know it all attitudes are dangerous on the highways some times its not what you say but how you say it.
     
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  3. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    I was really gonna let this go cuz as far as im concerned most of yall have no biz out here in 1st place--& I rarely get rude here BUT--ill stand by my statement forever--You run on a flat and don't know it--You are NOT paying attention,!!
    As for blowouts and what I have had or not had--most of u children have NEVER run Anything but multi ply radials--try 80k plus on the old bias plys(on split rims) like we used to run--so all u kids who wanna make arrogant statements about checkin when u stop are CLUELESS! And try payin 400+ for a trailer tire nowadays isn't of callin someone and whining u need help---I guarandam tee ya you Will start to pay attention
    And for the young lady who thinks I should retire--very interesting thinking--but it won't help since even when I do there will still be plenty of real drivers who refuse to accept the whiney excuses and no it all Newby attitudes about how the job is done--& jus like me They Will still have more miles backing up than you will ever have driving---& w/your shopping 2years out here check back in 20 winters from now and let us know how long you actually lasted out here
     
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  4. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    The bad attitudes stop now. Everyone go smoke or something.
     
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  5. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    I skipped ahead a couple pages...

    That looks like you ran a curb, so you may not have felt the 'blowout' because of the bumping.
    Not exactly a blowout, though.

    I've never seen a sidewall separate like that, just by itself.
     
  6. "Hang - Man"

    "Hang - Man" Heavy Load Member

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    I could be wrong and someone will correct me if i am --BBBUUTT would that tire be in much much worse condition if the driver had ran any kind of miles on it ? It sure seems to look pretty good to me except for the obvious !
    Is that scrape marks on the side wall or just a dust ring on the tire from the blow out ? Is that trailer (i think you said it was on the trailer) just pulled by you or others ?
    I would take every kind of picture you could take of that tire and rim and then look carefully at them to make sure they look to be in your favor EX: no scrape marks on the rim no drag marks on whats left of the tire etc.
    And did you say that's a recapped Tire? (i might have missed that) if so -that tire carcass has tons of miles on it in theory and could have had unseen damage on it even the recapper couldn't have seen
    I would absolutely NOT sign an accident report --for what a flat tire -that's the cost of doing business -- if you see no damage on that tire that you have caused i would make it known that you wont be taking any blame.
    I mean really - if the company wants you to start paying for every flat you get or defective tire , at what point is it their responsibility ? OK -so maybe the original poster didnt hear the tire blow or feel it (i still dont think he drove far on it) -whats the difference, maybe it wasn't a text book blow out stranger things have happened .
    The very most i would do is pay for a tire (recap) if they threaten your job, then start looking for a better company (if there are better ones out there).
    Even if you scrubbed the tire around the curb --it is still not an accident -its just a mistake!
    I am just wondering, are some of you drivers being made to pay for things like -oh i dunno -a deer jumping out in front of you - and that being called a avoidable accident ?
    But what do i know.
     
  7. "Hang - Man"

    "Hang - Man" Heavy Load Member

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    Just zoomed in on that tire via a photo editor, it looks like there is zero damage on that tire except for the side wall split. even the slight (Hard to see ) what looks like a scrub mark on the side wall could be from that side wall piece dropping down off of where the bead usually seals (higher part of the rim) and maybe touching the ground. That sure looks like that happened within feet of where that pic was taken or so near by. Are you sure that tire didnt blow while you were inside at the shippers, receivers, McDonald's -i dont know - somewhere that maybe you couldn't hear it ?
    It doesnt matter --dont sign an accident report --or your company will make you paint the truck when the color starts to fade on it. LOL
     
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  8. "Hang - Man"

    "Hang - Man" Heavy Load Member

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    [QUOTE="Hang - Man";3653463]Just zoomed in on that tire via a photo editor, it looks like there is zero damage on that tire except for the side wall split. even the slight (Hard to see ) what looks like a scrub mark on the side wall could be from that side wall piece dropping down off of where the bead usually seals (higher part of the rim) and maybe touching the ground. That sure looks like that happened within feet of where that pic was taken or so near by. Are you sure that tire didnt blow while you were inside at the shippers, receivers, McDonald's -i dont know - somewhere that maybe you couldn't hear it ?
    It doesnt matter --dont sign an accident report --or your company will make you paint the truck when the color starts to fade on it. LOL[/QUOTE]
    I missed that part about the whole back wall of the tire being gone (missing ) my bad reading is fundamental.
    But just a side note - new to me TV show on the weather channel something about heavy duty wreckers in Canada i believe -dont know what its called ? Some driver drug a Honda Civic or similar a mile down the road in front of his trailer tandems - if he didnt feel that i guess its possible to miss a blowout for a little distance -No ?
     
  9. Chucktaylor

    Chucktaylor Road Train Member

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    You hit a trailer with another trailer at the terminal yard last week, and now this thing. Pretty soon they all start to add up...whether this one is your fault or not safety will look at the bigger picture if you keep this up.
     
  10. dogchimp

    dogchimp Medium Load Member

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    I know haha, The worst part is this ones a 2014 too, but like I said, if this trailer hit a curb, I can say there's a 99 percent chance it wasn't me that did it, I'm beginning to think it was a piece of road debris and a fast air leak that caused it, but well never know for sure
     
  11. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Unless you find some piece off iron somewhere in the tire........you will indeed never know.
    As it is a recap,it might even have been a bad tire to start with.
    I have seen recaps that went to pieces without any outside damage done to them.
    The only sign was a few rusted steel threads in the sidewall.
    There is a reason why some off us don't use recaps.
     
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