You say the low pay is for those who need their hand held and claim you don't need yours held? BS!
You walk into trucking and you'll need your hand held for a while. Until you prove you don't need it held its costing your company money that could be going to you. You start in this industry you are starting at the bottom, where that bottom is for you depends on how much you're prepared to look and if you're willing to relocate. Even if you start with a mega making .16 a mile for "otr"( see Werner net ops for details) you only need to use it to learn the industry. While you're learning you can relax in your sleeper when they hang your ### out over the weekend and do job searches and research on a good company.
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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by blacky, Dec 5, 2013.
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Who said that? Not me.
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I am sorry Blacky --you just don't know.
Fuzzymateo has it right -- you will be choked to OTR poverty by the "new" log book requirements --not to mention if DOT fines you the driver for some ridiculous minor violation like tears in the reflective tape at the top of a container. Can the top efficient drivers work around the hours of service --yes but a long learning process --but by then most drivers are gone from being paid poorly.
You also have it right --walmartization --yep.
From what i can tell by these posts on this site, The big trucking companies receive monies from your tax dollars under the guise of "not enough Truck Drivers" so they promise to train Americans to work -- meanwhile flooding America with drivers --which they can use in return for very small pay checks. Since they now flooded trucking with drivers they can also cutback on the real professional drivers pay (lifers) since they can be replaced at the drop of a hat for less pay.
Here is where it gets ugly, So now you have a ton of new drivers working for peanuts, who in turn will quit soon, so now the company can go back to the Government and show that they need to train more drivers --and will need more money to go with it --ya feel me.
Your comment - "Would driving improve if all regulation from the roads was removed" -- Is a bit ridiculous --but go OTR, and then we will see if you change your tune.
Do you think that someone needs 34 hours (Rest) to reset their driving clock, and not just 34 hours in a row --but 34 hours with 2 periods between 1am and 5am involved with that 34 ? Oh yeh and only once a week --cause what, taking 2 -34 hour resets would not rest you enough to be legal again.
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I really appreciate you telling me how it is. But my point is that the IT world is the real world and driving that is the outlier. What other job only pays you when the wheels are turning. It reminds me of the sweatshops during the gilded age. Back then the real world was no 40 hour work week or vacation or OT or...
I'm not crying about the pay. I simply can't believe it. It must be that driving is not real work like in the real world. In the real world I'm not listening to a book while I let my mind wander while relying on my good habits and instincts as a driver. I am talking to a client and running 3 computers while doing research/testing and working with my boss and my peers while also working on one or two other issues at the same time while dealing with time pressure and clients and bosses standing over me asking me to do what they need. -
I did COBOL DB2 SAS for three years and ended up working 65 hours per week and was completely stressed out and not able to do any more. With truck driving I am limited to 70 hours every 8 days and in my first 6 years of driving would have done more many times except the law and qualcom will not allow it. Despite working a few more hours each week driving a truck there is just no comparison with the stress levels, trucking is just much less stressful for me but perhaps the same is not the case for you.
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Blacky i am confused, maybe you can clarify --are you driving truck for a company now?
I thought you were "Thinking" about going OTR.blacky Thanks this. -
Exactly, and I would add that the plutocrat's class war on the West's middle class means that there is a thumb on the scale where their allies in government have decided that we need to compete with slaves in China and elsewhere who are obligated to live in toxic sewers and work with no regulation that leads to people jumping off Apple buildings and dying when their workplace collapses. The race to the bottom is already here as the bridges collapse under us.Lux Prometheus Thanks this.
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When I was in school there was another driver trainee that was planning on going to ND. Is it true that you work solid for 2-3 weeks and then have a week off?
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[QUOTE="Hang - Man";3695134]Good news coming to the "Bred to be Trucker" if you choose to go that way and love it.
If the powers that be that are backing the "I want $15.00 an hour fast food workers" get their way - at least 50% of the drivers that aren't driving for the "Born to be, In my blood reason" will exit quickly to flip some burgers leaving the real drivers to do their thing.[/QUOTE]
Fyi: if the minimum wage had been indexed to inflation, it would be over $10 an hour. My point is the pay for driving is minimum wage.Lux Prometheus Thanks this.
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