What's With The Unprofessional Drivers?? Almost Crashed Today...

I guess your right you fishtailed because you was going do much fast than the truck when he moved over and was still fishtailing at the point you was headed to the front of his DRIVES ( as stated before and last time I checked this was the at the rear of the truck but I guess dumb truck drivers no nothing about steers and drives ) which means you was probably going better than ten MPH faster than him but YOU could not have prevented it at all by telling that you gaining on him so much faster and let out of it just a bit just incase (defensive driving Since you know the hammer lane is not taken care of ). So I guess its 1000% his fault.

Trust me I can't and don't predict all moves idiots make but I try my best to prepare for the Just incases and My driving record also shows it.
Yes He was in the wrong I agree but so was you and two wrongs don't make a right they make for out of control vehicles and wrecks Man up a take I little of the blame. you drive it a lot apparently and should be prepared for the worst as a PROFESSINAL driver.

 

I maintain that a sharp swerve to a lane that is covered with ice is worse than light braking in a lane that is basically clear of ice.
That is made clear by the OP's words that he lost much of his control and swerved back and forth between lanes.

I hope to never be next to him, or behind him, in any case.

 

negative I do slow down a bit as I approach so I am still gaining but not enough to not over take them but the way you described it you was doing quite a bit faster than him you would have been gaining fast to have changed lanes fishtailed I would assume off the gas and got ahead of his drives that's what I am saying I don't avoid passing I just slow a bit if I am gaining fast and it appears to be slick anywhere near me (aka the next lane or shoulder beside me if already in the hammer lane).
I do not care if my lane and the one to the right are clear as bells When approaching a vehicle if snow and ice are involved I take no chances sorry I guess I am just full of BS
just think about it you are coming up on a truck the appears to be going that much slower had you dropped even 2-3MPH 100 ft before you got to him would that have maybe stopped this from happing? You are sure your lane is clear how sure are you that his is and he won't hit a patch of ice and slide into your lane? How positive are you that someone is not on the side of the road walking because their car ran out of gas half a mile up the road and going to spook him? OR a dog run out in front of them.
Pass them Yes but I would rather slow a bit and pass them with care especially in winter conditions.
and at that hour you ALWAYS should be prepared to run across sleepy and/or drunk drivers Just saying.

I am not saying that there is an excuses for the driver just that YOU as a PROFESSIONAL Driver could have avoided the incident from experience as you stated before they do it all the time around there you knew the roads close to you were slick (prepare for the worst hope for the best)

To say I don't is a crook just tonight I was going though Saint Louis and I was in the middle lane going about 60 in a 65 as there where off and on slick spots in left lane(who know when there will be one in mine) I came upon a car that was going way slower I would assume about 50 as I got near I let up and passed them about 53-54 since I had already been slowing if they changed lanes real fast I was close enough to matching their speed that I could have lightly braked and not ran into them. go faster than them and pass but do it safely. and since your in a car its easy to regain the speed the 15 seconds you lose by slowing down close to their speed but still gaining won't kill you but not taking the extra Might.

I am sorry If I am offending you that's not what I am aiming for just a little acknowledgement that a bit more defensive driving may have kept it from happening I am sure your a good driver as your record shows and the fact that you kept cool and recovered I have not driven the 405 but I hear its a really bad and to have made it this long without a wreck I applaud you. even the best drivers mess up from time to time they may not wreck but they look back and ask how they may have been able to avoid the possibility of wreck. There are sometimes there is nothing I just don't think this is one of them.

I do thank you for acknowledging the fact that you miss read the first post and I understand how and why you did

 

If you do not like NEGATIVE comments then quit posting about stupid things that happen and I was not posting about my actions ( over confident ) I was responding to yours and if you read it in the proper context you did have your vehicle under control as you avoided a mishap!.

 

I heard exactly the same stupid advice from a CHP officer better than 10 years ago. I'll bet the same officer/s would cite any driver following it for an "unsafe lane change", and rightly so.

 

There's a lot of factors at play, but perhaps first is that objects approaching "head-on" offer only an apparent change in size as a clue to their speed/rate of closure, and that rate of change is not linear, as people expect.

Second might be "inattentional blindness". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness

Visual perception is nowhere near as reliable as it seems. Everyone has searched for something for 5 minutes before finding it under their nose, and pulled out in front of traffic (or nearly so). Still, they trust a glance in 1 direction to be sufficient to ensure the way is clear before they slow just enough to not carry their vehicle into opposing traffic as they fail to stop before executing those R turns on red. "Nothing happened last time, or the 1000 times before, therefore my experience has taught me I am infallible and stopping is just an unnecessary hindrance to my goal of arriving at Point B (or the red light or stop sign in full view) in the fewest possible seconds, therefore red light camera tickets must be all about revenue, because they come with a fine and I didn't crash."

People often, if not usually, if not ~always fail to realize is that they have no idea what they've missed seeing, because they missed seeing it.

 

People often, if not usually, if not ~always fail to realize is that they have no idea what they've missed seeing, because they missed seeing it. SO VERY TRUE and those are the ones who brag about NEVER HAD AN ACCIDENT but unaware of the ones they caused.