All large companies are bad

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by landmine, Mar 26, 2008.

  1. jl090507

    jl090507 Light Load Member

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    I have a termination less than one year! ( I checked with them)
     
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  3. Tip

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    Bigger companies don't take that into account because it doesn't matter how well you've been trained--if the outfit has high turnover, you'll quit sooner or later. Probably sooner. They want to use new drivers as wheel holders until they become too expensive, either insurance-wise (from incidents) or from advancement (raises), or until they quit, whichever comes first.
     
  4. jl090507

    jl090507 Light Load Member

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    I am just finding it so #### hard to be local driver. You need a year or more experience to be local driver with anyone. But the only way to get that year experience is to be a "wheel holder" as you call it!
     
  5. landmine

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    You are correct in that statement, I misunderstood what you were saying and agree with that. I have always bought at mom and pop stores even though it cost a little more (and I do mean little) the price difference is not worth the hassle of manuvering around wally world. With that said we can never change trucking if we do not stand up to the companies cutting rates off the drivers backs.
     
  6. landmine

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    How do you get that one year experience except for the driver mill employers such as Swift, Crete, USX, etc...


    I was not pointing to driver mills as being bad, I was pointing to the general rule companies have adopted that to compete they must ride on the drivers back. The driver mill started around 15 years ago with JB Hunt after the CDL became law. Before that you had to either have family or a friend willing to train you, or find a company willing to train you. You went to the revenue dept paid $11.00 to get a choufure (cant spell) license and were off. When the CDL was put in place companies had to find a way to train driversand so the in-house training sprang up. (This was 1990). At that time alot of small companies started their own and contrary to popular opinion new drivers are pretty safe, for the first year. They do have minor accidents but as I told them (I worked accidents for 5 years) I did not worry about them for 6 months, after that they statred thinking they could drive. The major accidents tended to involve drivers with 5+ years exp. The driver mills are as you stated purly an insurance carrier requirement. The insurance company dictates a companies hiring policy, and the only ones who can afford to pay the rates are the driver mills.
    Older drivers had to pay dues also, $100.00 fine for being late on an appointment, drive 600 mile then told to drive another 500 by morning or your fired. Taking speed to stay awake was common, the cb radio was full of dealers. Drivers with a case of beer in a cooler between their seat. Yes there was good things then, DOT didn't hassle as much, fewer weigh stations, you were not looked upon as a revenue source (except in certain towns or counties) but not the unstated policy of an entire state. Drivers helped each other. Courtesy ruled the road (mostly).
    I feel sorry for all drivers today new or old hand. The filth of s++t being thrown out, drivers who take 2 parking spots, restrictions on everything, companies who worry more about the stock holder and assume drivers do not need to see their family.
    I HATE unions as do most drivers who have delivered to a union plant and have set watching while the last pallet they need to leave sets on a forklift 5 feet from trailer for 30 min as the "worker" is joking with his friend then goes to lunch for an hour. But I think the time is comming where we need to form a new union (I do not trust teamsters).
    Good luck, pay attention to what drivers say, research a company, and set down with your wife if you have one or yourself if not and write down all the points you want in a job befaore you take it. Talk to a recruiter armed with your list, walk if the job is not for you and keep looking. If the promise from the recruiter is different than the orentiation, leave before thay hire you.
     
  7. MO family man

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    Hear ya on the EMS bit. I only did it for a short time but got fed up with it too quick. Put the #### seatbelt on I am tired of strappin' your now paralyzed body to the board. My favorite "You called us out here for this? I'll take you to the hospital but ya are walkin' your own sorry ### to the bus."

    Sorry quick stroll down bad memory lane. The driver mills are what they are and will be what you want to make them. Naysayers like landmine don't like them and never will for reasons only they and others of their ilk understand. I have been at a mill for awhile now and it isn't so bad. It has been downright nice for the most part. Worst case scenario is if you don't like it after a year or so then go get that dream job you want. Then come back to this board and talk smack about your former employer.
     
  8. jl090507

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    Or the ones I always called "Insurance-itis"

    ABC= Ambulate Before Carry


    Which Mill are you at now?
     
  9. landmine

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    "Naysayers like landmine don't like them and never will for reasons only they and others of their ilk understand."


    Pointing out how these companies harm new drivers, rip them off, treat them like cattle makes us "ilk" then I will happily wear that miniker.
    Since it is wrong to stand for fair treatment of another person, to show the harm these driver mills do to the industry as a whole makes us "ilk" I think I need to create a patch we can wear to proclaim to the world how proud we are to be designated as suck.
    Ilk's forever! :smt026
     
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  10. Fooman

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    This thread is getting confusing.....:mconfused:.......:biggrin_25520:

    I know for a new guy researching the options for when he has that shiny new CDL is a daunting task. Like previously stated, most (not all) of the companies accepting recent grads are the ones pointed to by the OP, the biggies, for better or worse.

    As jl090507 pointed out, till a newman gets some experience under his belt, he is the "wheel holder" for the time being? He is part of the problem, being used by the big's. Where else is this experience gained?:biggrin_25511:
     
  11. MO family man

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    Roehl. They have their quirks which offend some people(They are control freaks) but I have done well for myself and my family there.
     
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