Road Rage

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by RogerThat72, Mar 2, 2014.

  1. "Hang - Man"

    "Hang - Man" Heavy Load Member

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    gpsman have to go back to the basics here -- We are talking about a "On ramp with a {YIELD} sign merging onto a limited access highway " ..correct ?- i want to make sure i am reading this correctly and i didn't get lost in the posts.
    I downloaded the drivers manual for the state of "OHIO" ..which is where you are showing as your location.
    Its in "PDF" form so forgive me as i couldn't copy and paste page 59 ..which shows sign,s and their meanings, including "YIELD" signs. By the way PA manual shows the same meaning for a "YIELD" sign.
    FYI: this is from the basic motor vehicle manual ..there are no different meanings for tractor and trailer unless noted that i am aware of.
    If you look at page 59 and the "YIELD" sign and its meaning and come up with the same conclusion you have now ..so be it.
    Keep the shiny side up driver!

    http://publicsafety.ohio.gov/links/hsy7607.pdf
     
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  3. gpsman

    gpsman Road Train Member

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    It must be my fault I can't adequately explain that which needs no explaining.
     
  4. gpsman

    gpsman Road Train Member

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    [QUOTE="Hang - Man";3879849]gpsman have to go back to the basics here -- We are talking about a "On ramp with a {YIELD} sign merging onto a limited access highway " ..correct ?- i want to make sure i am reading this correctly and i didn't get lost in the posts.
    I downloaded the drivers manual for the state of "OHIO" ..which is where you are showing as your location.
    Its in "PDF" form so forgive me as i couldn't copy and paste page 59 ..which shows sign,s and their meanings, including "YIELD" signs. By the way PA manual shows the same meaning for a "YIELD" sign.
    FYI: this is from the basic motor vehicle manual ..there are no different meanings for tractor and trailer unless noted that i am aware of.
    If you look at page 59 and the "YIELD" sign and its meaning and come up with the same conclusion you have now ..so be it.
    Keep the shiny side up driver!

    http://publicsafety.ohio.gov/links/hsy7607.pdf[/QUOTE]

    Driver's manuals don't stipulate traffic code. Here's more for you to misinterpret:

    4511.43 Right-of-way rule at through highways, stop signs, yield signs.

    (A) Except when directed to proceed by a law enforcement officer, every driver of a vehicle or trackless trolley approaching a stop sign shall stop at a clearly marked stop line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or, if none, then at the point nearest the intersecting roadway where the driver has a view of approaching traffic on the intersecting roadway before entering it. After having stopped, the driver shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching on another roadway so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time the driver is moving across or within the intersection or junction of roadways.

    (B) The driver of a vehicle or trackless trolley approaching a yield sign shall slow down to a speed reasonable for the existing conditions and, if required for safety to stop, shall stop at a clearly marked stop line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or, if none, then at the point nearest the intersecting roadway where the driver has a view of approaching traffic on the intersecting roadway before entering it. After slowing or stopping, the driver shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle or trackless trolley in the intersection or approaching on another roadway so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time the driver is moving across or within the intersection or junction of roadways. Whenever a driver is involved in a collision with a vehicle or trackless trolley in the intersection or junction of roadways, after driving past a yield sign without stopping, the collision shall be prima-facie evidence of the driver's failure to yield the right-of-way.

    http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4511.43
     
  5. "Hang - Man"

    "Hang - Man" Heavy Load Member

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    "SIGH" so be it --good luck to you driver !
     
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  6. 12 ga

    12 ga THE VIEW FROM MY OFFICE

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    The law in every state dictates that traffic coming down an entrance ramp must merge into existing traffic. Also if you have an accident while changing lanes it is you fault, no if and or buts. You should have been taught that in CDL school.
     
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  7. "Hang - Man"

    "Hang - Man" Heavy Load Member

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    Just so we are clear here "semi retired semi driver" you ARE stating that the merging traffic on an "on ramp" must YIELD to the main flow of traffic... right.
    I am not sure what gpsman is arguing anymore, maybe we are stating the same thing ...
    The last sentence in the rule gpsman posted .......

    after driving past a yield sign without stopping, the collision shall be prima-facie evidence of the driver's failure to yield the right-of-way.
     
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  8. Joetro

    Joetro Road Train Member

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    [QUOTE="Hang - Man";3880058]Just so we are clear here "semi retired semi driver" you ARE stating that the merging traffic on an "on ramp" must YIELD to the main flow of traffic... right.
    I am not sure what gpsman is arguing anymore, maybe we are stating the same thing ...
    The last sentence in the rule gpsman posted .......

    after driving past a yield sign without stopping, the collision shall be prima-facie evidence of the driver's failure to yield the right-of-way.[/QUOTE]
    I think he argues just to argue. He doesn't seem to like truck drivers much.
     
  9. "Hang - Man"

    "Hang - Man" Heavy Load Member

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    LOL i am so confused any more Joetro :confused1::smt120:confused2: I am hoping --"no praying" that "WE" are all on the same page as to what a "YIELD" sign means --and there is no misunderstanding about that basic fact ...
    "YIELD" MEANS = PROCEED WITH CAUTION, BUT DARN IT "STOP" IF IT IS TO DANGEROUS TO CONTINUE INTO THE MAIN STREAM OF TRAFFIC WITHOUT IMPEDING THEIR FLOW....
    Please tell me that at least 99.999999 % of the drivers on this forum (SEMI DRIVERS OR NOT) are in agreement with what i wrote above.
    I hope i am not the .000001 % that has is it backwards ... LOL (license in hand --ready to cut it to pieces)
     
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  10. 12 ga

    12 ga THE VIEW FROM MY OFFICE

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    [QUOTE="Hang - Man";3880058]Just so we are clear here "semi retired semi driver" you ARE stating that the merging traffic on an "on ramp" must YIELD to the main flow of traffic... right.
    I am not sure what gpsman is arguing anymore, maybe we are stating the same thing ...
    The last sentence in the rule gpsman posted .......

    after driving past a yield sign without stopping, the collision shall be prima-facie evidence of the driver's failure to yield the right-of-way.[/QUOTE]

    I have not seen a yield sign on an entrance ramp in forever, WHY, because it's the law without it being there anyway. They must merge into existing traffic.
     
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  11. Lowa3468

    Lowa3468 Heavy Load Member

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    And if one does get a ticket it will be for failing to maintain Lane, a failure to maintain Lane ticket can also be given if one does a merge to 2nd or left Lane and is seen by an officer when merging traffic to oncoming Lane. I've ran Leo's onto shoulder when they don't merge properly, haven't been pulled over for it but I bet if I went to 2nd Lane / left Lane I am sure they would have pulled me over in a heartbeat
     
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