california crap

TOMBSTONE1954 · Mar 14, 2014

I just don't go to California period.

bigdad7 · Mar 14, 2014

Yep my 01 is happy too....,

Working Class Patriot · Mar 14, 2014

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On top of all this. They are building a new supercoupe and agricultural check station just south of the Nevada Stateline on I 15
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Yep.....Think of the jobs that'll "create".....

You guys tired of all of the Expats from Cali moving in yet?......

Working Class Patriot · Mar 14, 2014

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For what it is worth, in California in the high density urban environments on cold winter nights in the valleys near Los Angeles and San Francisco the air can get trapped and not move, and so when people burn their firewood the smoke gets really dense, and people with respiratory problems will have a hard time breathing, and many end up in the hospital, and a few die, and that is why they call the "Spare the Air" days. The poor people can use natural gas or electricity for heat, which is cheaper for urban dwellers than firewood. The people that tend to burn firewood in California cities tend to be at least middle class with homes that have fireplaces, they are not the poor people living in small apartments.

I find it amusing that people on this site always seem to take shots at California, but out of necessity California has led the nation in ways to reduce pollution. It is kind of amazing that there are far more cars and trucks in California now than in 1970, but the pollution is far less. Idling trucks overnight at truck stops is also a stupid idea, my idea would be to require all new trucks to have an electrical outlet and require truck stops and ports to be required to provide power to the trucks. I have heard that Europe is seriously looking into adopting the same regulations as California has, and I could see several other states following. OK, continue with your California bashing.
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Ok....This is nothing new....When the Spanish first explored what is now the LA Metro....They noticed the smoke from the fires hanging in the Basin....
The smoke was from the Chumash and the Gabrielinos...Who were more concerned about staying warm and eating than a "Clean Air Mandate" back then....

bigdad7 · Mar 14, 2014

Guess i was ahead of the curve we evacuated the state in 03 i believe .....best move ever

Working Class Patriot · Mar 14, 2014

semi retired semi driver said: ↑

And You probable think that Nancy Polosey (we have to pass this bill before we know what is in it) is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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Not to get political (Lest this thread get moved....Can't have that now...)....Nobody except for people who live in the Bay Area love Pelosi.... Or act like her...
Many Californians have the mindset of say a "Tom Mcclintock"...

Working Class Patriot · Mar 14, 2014

bigdad7 said: ↑

Now we found the bozos responsible for obama
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Really.........

Working Class Patriot · Mar 14, 2014

Green-eyed Lady said: ↑

Yes, it can be a problem in urban areas, and there are a lot of poor people living in urban areas, but I was really speaking to people living in the country.

Often times what California wants or more specifically LA/Orange counties, tends to become the law of the land in America.

My hometown of Waterford Ireland had to close their glass manufacturing b/c of California banning lead crystal. If it can't be sold in America, companies can't survive.

I refused to move to California in the 70's b/c of the air pollution. I am very impressed at how clean the air is now. Good job CA.
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And banning lead in products is a bad thing?....
I suggest you do a study on the correlation between lead poisoning and physical disabilities in children....

Btw...Mexican candy with lead and mercury used for "coloring agents" are banned in Cali as well...
Would you give your kids lead or mercury to consume?

Working Class Patriot · Mar 14, 2014

bigdad7 said: ↑

So carbs ideas were so good they are proposing exempting another boatload of people and if i read it right.the rules that pertain to me small fleet exemption got sweeter with one compliant truck i can run two non compliant trucks for two years then upgrade one of the two and i have til 2018 to upgrade the last.......yep gonna firr those baby,s up and kill me a whole lotta people in cali with my particulate matter how the he.,,ll are they going to enforce anything with fifteen million difrent wavers and or exemptions
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One way Cali will enforce it....By not issuing Cab Cards to carriers with pre EPA '07 engines....

Working Class Patriot · Mar 14, 2014

mike3fan said: ↑

Except the thing that would do the best at cutting pollution. You know that thing called mass transportation. Went to the Rose Bowl this year and was shocked at the lack of options other than driving with all the other idiots on the road.
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That's because in Cali....We have the "NIMBY" deal.....Nobody wants a Light-Rail running behind their yards....

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