You are right.
However, if companies were truly paying the driver for the work they have to do, then there would be less time at the docks because the driver would have to be moving to justify the cost of the load. Only then will the driver be compensated correctly and dispatchers put to the task of production.
FMCSA wants to see how 2005 HOS rule affects drivers
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Cybergal, Mar 21, 2008.
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Being paid buy the hour would solve the problem. but the ATA doesn't want that. they are not for safety. They want a screwed up pay scale were they can fudge books. I know a company that was paying drivers under the table for the miles they ran off the log book.
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I believe that being paid for all hours on line 3 & 4, would do away with most problems in trucking. You would do away with most speeding, and aggressive truck problems in traffic.
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You, collectively, have more power, more say in the rule makings than they do.
All that needs happen is to get coordinated & petition the government for what YOU want.
The hell with the ATA.
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Pay has nothing to do with your log sheet. Your log sheets reflect what you are doing every 15 minutes! I can pay you to sleep for 24 hours if I want to!
So lets not relate logs to pay!
What you drivers do need to do is get together and make sense out of some logic (keeping the public in mind) rules . If you can come up with some then by all means write the DOT your thoughts .
Just voicing your negative thoughts isn't doing any good except making you look like a whinner/no one that has a "real" opinion. So figure something out .
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Logging Legal, is not as easy as it sounds. I thing what hurts the drivers most, is the waiting between loads. Its very hard to log sitting for 8 hrs before getting loaded, and then have to make delievery the next morning.
IF DOT would just allow the CLOCK to STOP while waiting, and then after loading the CLOCK WOULD START AGAIN AND NO TIME WOULD BE LOST...
If this could happen I bet the LOGS COULD BE LEGAL!!!!!!!
I think the public citizen group should look at this, instead of trying to take more time from the drivers!!!!!!!!! -
Baloney. Drivers should be paid for all time on duty. Just like everyone else.
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DOT and public citizen want the clock to keep running. If you could stop the clock more drivers would hide unloading and sitting at dock time. They do not want tired truckers on the roads. Public citizen wants you to have 12 hrs line 3&4 and then 12 hours off.
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Why do you think the clock was made to keep running?
Because in the previous HOS, hardly anyone stopped working & regularly cheated on the HOS. -
So to a point these rules today are for your protection of being over worked also!
But I see your point and know what you are getting at
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