log book school or training - online or in midland/odessa Tx

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by hardworkinman, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. hardworkinman

    hardworkinman Light Load Member

    Is there some sort of school or class you can attend to learn the art and science of doing a proper log book and complying with hundreds of regulations, specifications, exemptions, and other legal jargon that is highly confusing to a new and uninformed driver like myself?

    Either online or 1 in Midland Odessa Texas would be great.
    Thanks!
     
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  3. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Why pay for some log book school.You learn with exp.Heck I bet not 1 driver knows every single law there is.Thats why so many log book questions on the forum.You'll learn logs in trucking school and at your first company.I wouldn't sweat it if I were you.
     
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  4. hardworkinman

    hardworkinman Light Load Member

    I went to school and log books were hardly brought up let alone broken down each and every little term an exemption. the reason I ask is because the companies that I have worked for since I have had my license will let you run illegally if you are not knowledgeable of the laws. Dot is cracking down severely throughout Texas and I don't want to be the one who is trying to run legally but ends up in violation because I am not knowledgeable about the science of the law or a legal scholar to be able to decipher all the legal jargon.
     
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  5. pattyj

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    That makes since,maybe someone here can help you.
     
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  6. rockee

    rockee Road Train Member

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    When you get right down to it there are only a few things you need to know in order to be in compliance and it's not compiled in "legal jargon". You don't need to know the science of the law to know the law. Might be a little more complicated if you work in the oil fields or on a farm but if your a regular Joe OTR driver it's very simple. Go to FMCSR and look in part 395 and you will find your answers there, or even some searching on this site.
     
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  8. hardworkinman

    hardworkinman Light Load Member

    I dont do otr I drive a flatbed crane truck. I break down and install frack stacks in the oil fields but from what I hear we are not in the oil exemption category. I have read 395 multiple times and I understand some of the basics the part that gets confusing is all the exceptions and exemptions and different rules for different loads. Its pretty complicated. you would think a law like this would be very cut and dry but when you actually read 395 it is anything but
     
  9. rockee

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    Is that all you do is service the oil fields? Where is it that you hear you are not in that category? What exceptions and exemptions are you talking about and what do you mean different rules for different loads?
     
  10. hardworkinman

    hardworkinman Light Load Member

    from a veteran driver that used to Drive for a frak company. He said the only truck that qualifies for the oilfield exception is a frac truck, although it is only hearsay I tend to agree based on what I have witnessed while driving a vacuum truck, the frack truck drivers that I have seen have had their curtains drawn and they're pretty much the only one on site just hanging out while everyone else is running around like crazy. Exceptions for distances, loads, and numerous others there's pretty much an exception for every hourly rule that they have in there so I was hoping to go 2 some class and get the straight facts so I dont have 2 guess everything.

    My motivation for this is because you will be forced to drive illegally if you don't have knowledge of the rules. 9 times out of 10 if you quote a rule you think exists your driver manager will disagree with you and ask you where you heard that. If you are not confident and extremely knowledgeable about the drive hour limits and exceptions you will not only look like a fool to your boss but you will also be getting marks on ur cdl and a fine when you get pulled over buy a DOT officer
     
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