16 hour rule... in effect if a flight is part of the 16 hours?

Short answer no.

 

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the problem with the industry! People like this WANT all these stupid regulations.

 

only count time in or around trk anything else off duty. your day started when u pre-trip trk we don't have 16hr rule that is a new 1 on me.

 

16-Hour Short-Haul Provision - 395.1(o)
Commercial operations that utilize property-carrying CDL drivers and operate in a localized capacity where the driver returns home at the end of their work day may be able to utilize the 16-Hour Short- Haul Provision. This exception allows the property-carrying driver to extend their duty period to 16 hours if the following conditions are met:
�� Driver must return to the work reporting location at the end of that work day as well as the previous 5 work duty days
�� Driver must be released from duty within 16 hours after coming on duty
�� Driver must only use this exception once in any 7 consecutive days. The 34-Hour Restart provision can be used to restart the 7/8 day record. Drivers may not use this provision if they qualify for the Non-CDL Short-Haul Provision (395.1(o)).

 

I'd like to revisit this thread, as the company I work for recently sent a retired (still legal to drive) driver to pick up a truck we bought. I'm not sure, but I believe he said it was in Indiana. Anyway, he flew up, picked up the truck, and was returning home. He crossed into Oklahoma on I-35, and went through the scales (the one commonly referred to around here as "the supercoup"). They did not hesitate to write him a log violation for not logging the plane ride as "on duty/not driving."

True story.

 

As long as you don't do any work related tasks/drive and take a ten hour brake after arriving then it doesn't have to be logged as on duty.

 

Plane, train, truck, car, bicycle, ect, if you are dispatched by a company to pick up a truck, you are on duty. The best bet is to take a 10 after arriving if you have burnt a lot of hours getting to the destination. I would say an exception is if you log sleeper berth while traveling with another driver to pick up a truck. (if you are in the sleeper)...

 

"I flew here to visit my sister in (------) soon as I got here my boss called, asked if I could do him a solid and hed pay double time Til I got back"

 

In 2011, I drove a truck that belonged to the Air Force from Colorado Springs to Miami for them. Flew back to Denver. Logged every bit of the driving, but as soon as I handed over the keys to the customer and they signed off on a post trip inspection, I went Off Duty. Two months later the company got a DOT visit. We were informed that from the time I left the hotel in Miami until I arrived left the company office in Denver, I was supposed to be on Line 4, the only caveat to it was if the company wasn't paying me for the travel time.