I know I know, more questions about the Schneider and the Choice board.

Discussion in 'Schneider' started by Preacher Man, May 6, 2014.

  1. Preacher Man

    Preacher Man Road Train Member

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    It is hard to compare apples to oranges, but I am trying to get some idea of the comparison of revenue to the truck between what I get now and what to expect on the choice board. Obviously deadhead isn't figured in on the pay per mile they quote, but with that in mind what is the average, some would say median pay per mile are any of you seeing? That will give me a point of reference to work from. Thank-you in advance.
     
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  3. speedbuggy84410

    speedbuggy84410 Light Load Member

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    This is true. If you breakdown prior to you picking up load, all is forgiven. No fee. If you have a REALLY good relationship with your ICA and ICL, then they can waive it for other reasons.
     
  4. wonderdog24

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    1.50-1.65 for all miles ran is what I would venture to guess.....
     
  5. DeadArmadillo

    DeadArmadillo Light Load Member

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    I think it is. I've been watching many of their Youtube videos, Schneiderjobs, and this one shows an actual "booking" uploaded on April 25, 2014. Freeze frame it at exactly 01:00 and look at two columns on the far right. The entire video is very informative.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMLzoEGNsr0
     
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  6. Helowrenchturn2

    Helowrenchturn2 Medium Load Member

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    When I became an IC years ago ther hardest thing to get out of my head was how many miles I can run in a week. Yes, you still have to consider cost/pay per mile but the thing I've found most important ( in my case) is to get the most money for the least amount of work. I've had weeks where my cpm was as low as 1.30/mi and others way up over 2.00/mi. Tomorrow I am running two loads that wil avg $1.85 all miles mt and loaded($1185 gross). That being said, it's very possible to avg 1.40 or more on choice. It's difficult to give you an exact figure just because it does fluctuate so much. Last year I was very VERY lazy. Lol I ran just over 90,000 mi and grossed 128,000. That's slightly over 1.40/mi for all mi driven. In my situation it's plenty, I have very low over head. If I get 1.00/mi my truck bills are paid, everything over that goes to the house bills, taxes and my pocket. Others may see that as a paltry sum but they may have larger expenses. Moral of the story? When it's all said and done, you will make equal to or slightly more than a company driver although it is possible to make much more depending on how hard,where you run and your personal situation.

    Concerning what you said about deadhead not being quoted, it is. There is a column that tells you just that. It isn't exact, but it can give you a quick heads up as to whether or not that load will be profitable.

    The he recruiters will tell you how Schneider has your back and you can get maint done at their shops and such. Take this with a grain of salt and just assume you will be looking elsewhere for these things. The first question I was asked when I called about tires was if my truck was through Schneider finance. When I said no things changed. I was told I could get tires but should only get a cpl at a time because they would take the money back all at once. How does this help me manage my cash flow as the website says??

    I know now this isn't the hard number answer you are looking for but maybe it will help a little.
     
  7. speedbuggy84410

    speedbuggy84410 Light Load Member

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    Preacher Man, IC Choice has roughly 1700 IC's right now. As of Monday 5/5/14, I was told from my Ops Manager in NC that we are averaging $1.62/mi. as a group. No one can tell you what to expect to make because it's all up to you. We don't know what loads you'll pick, where you will or want to run. You are the dispatcher. It's all up to you. You haul what you want, where you want, when you want, go home when you want. So, it's really up to you how much you want to make or need to make. The opportunity is there. You make what you want of it. Keep one thing in mind, tho. You want to make the most money with the least amount of miles. So get out of the mindset of how many miles you run per week. Also, on our board, you can see your RPM to the truck and the gross revenue to the truck including FSC. It will also calculate RPM based on your deadhead. Granted, that part is not all that accurate. Any other questions just ask. There are lots of folks on here that are ready to help any way we can.
     
  8. Preacher Man

    Preacher Man Road Train Member

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    I understand the concept and I understand that there will be an adjustment in the way I run my business. Shoot, in 14 weeks my truck is paid off and everything changes simply by putting $487 more a week in my pocket no matter what. One thing that changes is where I will run. I like staying close to home, but give me a good enough rate and I'll run to Florida. It's simple math, a good enough rate and you can bounce empty a long way and it's still worth it. The load they just put on me to Sioux City might have been worth it to deadhead out of there if the rate in was good enough. That is what I am getting at in my question. I understand that there will be a wide variety of rates, but that's true on any system like this. Let's face it the Choice board is a recognition that Schneider is a freight broker and offering the loads to individual drivers rather than other companies such as Roehl.

    My understanding is that rates really vary at Landstar as well. The nice part is that if you don't like the rate you don't have dispatcher complaining about how many loads you turn down. Even now I have a list of parameters to accept a load. If I get something at least close to what I'm looking for I take the load. I'll need to set up my list when I switch and when I find something at least close I'll jump on it.
     
  9. TennMan

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    My next 8 days average 1.768 per mile on 2545 miles and includes a restart at the house.
     
  10. ETCH5858

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    Preach,
    Glad you came here to ask, I really looked at landstar but because of the broker situation they have I was not interested. I was leary of SNI at first being they were a mega carrier. I have no regrets here at all. In the area you live you should be able to average close to $2.00 per mile and never venture more than 300 miles. It is a learning curve with the customer base in a specific area but once you learn it becomes easy. I roughly haul for the same 5-8 customers rarely leaving Texas. I run 6-9 loads a week and am home normally two night a week and for my 34 on weekends. I really try to take home at least .80-1.00 a mile after all expenses. I achieve this nearly every week while driving right around 2000 miles a week. You are in a similar freight area as I am in Texas.
    The loads on the board will show you total revenue to truck and rate per loaded mile (This will include the fuel surcharge) Once you except a load you run it to completion. The only time they will relay it is if the consignee changes the delivery and you are already booked on other loads that it will interfere on. This rarely happens though. Once you figure out the good and bad customers is gets quite easy. Two Roehl guys followed me and both are still here and both seem quite pleased. The whole trailer rental thing is no big deal. They just don't want you taking a trailer with you out of service for more than 48 hours. All about equipment utilization, Normally if you have loads lined up after you break your are technically under a load so the whole trailer time thing really doesn't matter .
     
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