so, you think your safe with the elog and hos.

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  1. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    somehow, i don't think that's true. and i won't say why.

    as for as obeying laws. even the laws break the law.

    #1 rule of driving. NO FATIGUE.

    for 63 years you could drive and sleep and drive. now, your forced to drive, and forced to sleep. in one stretch. and on TTR. someone is posting a new accident every day.
     
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  3. ironpony

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    The 911 feature on your phone incorporates a GPS transponder, and the pings to cell towers can be used to triangulate your location. Perhaps you think this is a state secret???

    Did you actually read this before you hit "Post???"

    And here I always thought it was, "WAVE AT ALL OF THE PRETTY GIRLS!"

    Anyone who allows themselves to be "forced" to do anything is a sheeple, IMO. Perhaps you should look in the mirror.
     
  4. Cowpie1

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    Yeah, boy! I do love how this "forced to do something" thing always gets brought up. You said it Ironpony, anyone who allows themselves to be forced to do anything is a sheeple. Especially those that claim they are forced to sign on with a company to do a job. Surprised that hasn't been used as an argument.
     
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    if you Reread my first post "In the Governments eyes E-logs has nothing to do with 'safety'. It's all about their plan to add another tax to tax trucks per every mile driven. "

    Right now the current IRP and IFTA Tax systems depend on the "Honor" system of reporting.
     
  6. Roadmedic

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    So, how can a tax be added when in your plan they are looking to confirm the miles driven?

    All the miles are supposed to be reported now.
     
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    Yeah, that one doesn't make sense to me either. IFTA is the reporting method. Now, true, someone could shave off actual miles on the IFTA report, but then the correlating fuel economy drops in the report, and tax is paid on gallons used within a state. The same fuel is used regardless of miles. And if it was all about the feds wanting another mileage tax, that is simply done by requiring odometer readings for a year when base plate is renewed. No need to go to some ELD device.
     
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    IMO, instead of just raising IFTA, which funnels money directly back into each STATE, you will someday have a "mileage" tax based on elogs, just like Ifta, except it will be a FEDRAL rate that is the same across the board and they will be able to raise it at a whim.

    That money will go directly into the FEDRAL gov. coffer's, now of course "all" of that money will be earmarked for FEDRAL infrastructure improvement. Wink,wink!
     
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  9. BigSam

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    Exactly. It will be ANOTHER TAX. There is already legislation in Washington DC to do this very thing. History has a way of repeating itself. Just like the 2290 Tax. It was started as a temporary tax to repair our bridges after the bride collapse on I-95 over the Mianus River in Connecticut back in 1983. Over the years that money has been slowly channeled to other Government programs thus adding to the problems we have today.

    Quick question for everyone...

    What percentage of our Fuel Tax dollars actually gets used on our roads?
     
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  10. TLeaHeart

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    they are not adding another tax, the are verifying the current tax, and are you reporting it correctly. Just another use of technology to make sure that everyone is obeying the laws as written.
     
  11. TLeaHeart

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    It was oregon and california that first proposed a miles driven tax, and have still not passed any laws....

    62% of the federal tax goes to roads...
    71% of the state tax goes to roads....

    A Heritage Foundation analysis of the federal Highway Trust Fund (HTF) concurs: "[M]otorists will receive only about 62 percent of what they have paid into the fund for general purpose roads and safety programs."

    yes money is diverted to other transportation... but the majority is used for roads and bridges.
     
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