Entertainment systems / Audio?

Discussion in 'Trucking Electronics, Gadgets and Software Forum' started by FLC1, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. FLC1

    FLC1 Bobtail Member

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    I personally was a car stereo installer atleast 6 years before being a speaker/acoustics engineer. Due to china building about 80-90% of "American Made" audio, the manufacturing market in the US for audio is very limited.
    500 watts in a truck is barely significant in comparison to a small car, as stated above, physics says more area equals more power. I know my Cascadia had no bass whatsoever, unless I was parked, and volume was low- with no reefers. so I had to do something
    500 watts inside a enclosed truck about 400 -600 cubic feet of airspace, would be nothing compared to reefers or APUs. It would be able to get you to enjoy your music or movies to a level as if at home. Iam an audiophile, and these car audio stock systems in big cabin trucks is nonsense. I want to hear 20hz-20,000hz with no less than a 3db drop. Nothing would be generic, the door speakers and sub would be Arc audio most likely, amps would be Arc, or these super efficient Class D tripath amps I have been messing with.
    In the Cascadia atleast there is a place to professionally mount/un mount a TV that weighs up to 25lbs. So you can take off the tv and unplug your audio within minutes compared to a professional installed system. This is professionally designed audio to take the installer out of the picture.
    As an installer ( which I still do sometimes ) a big rig boat and RVs , these customers usually end up paying alot of money for audio/video to be installed, at least twice as much as automotive. So if custom labor is about $60-80hr, doing big rigs and RVs can cost $80-160 hr. Ive seen it many times with the shops I have dealt with, or worked at
    I don't think Chemical brothers or Dubstep playing loudly would be any more of an issue as a quiet APU at night. If someone is blaring music when people are sleeping, well hes a #### lol
    And no tone deaf wont be a problem unless you get into something like this at the age of 60+ due to the design of human hearing, and weakening of the ear parts.
    I deal with multi thousand watt systems, and have for 20 years+ I was at a car show and relaxing in my friends 12,000w car system for awhile just getting a good back massage, I hear fine.
     
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  3. FLC1

    FLC1 Bobtail Member

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    Hahaha nicely worded
     
  4. Lucar

    Lucar Road Train Member

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    You need a dvd receiver
    I pick pioneer or alpine.
    4- 6x9" speakers. They sale enclosures that you can hang. I'd pick "3 ways pioneers that have the most "rms watts" ratings, about 65 watts rms.
    2- 5-1/4" focal components for the front.
    I'd get a 10" woofer, "focal"
    Then buy a 5 channel amp from either JL audio or kicker.

    The most expensive the wiring you can afford the better quality you will have.

    You're looking at about $2k of kick-#### sound system.

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  5. The Unatrucker

    The Unatrucker Light Load Member

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    I find that most speaker setups are fine, it's just the bass that lacks. I was thinking of just buying a standalone sub, like 200-400w. If you ran RCAs from the head unit to the sub would you still get audio from the trucks speakers?

    Another thing i was considering was just getting a really good 2.1 setup and running it off the inverter, since I only listen to music with my iPod Shuffle plugged into the head unit anyway,.
     
  6. FLC1

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    See this is what got me started, is finding a way to get a subwoofer to hook up as simple as possible. RCA jacks behind the stereo are added outputs, it doesn't cancel out the internal deck power.
    You will get a good gain on overhead volume by adding a sub, because now your door and rear speakers are not being forced to play bass which distorts the upper frequencies
    The 2.1 falls into the same ideal about a powered sub system. Looking into 3 channels amps, like 50wx2+150x1 or 300x1
     
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  7. MsJamie

    MsJamie Road Train Member

    500W in my 2000 cubic foot living room when I was playing Independence Day shook the ceiling enough that my upstairs neighbor thought a plane had crashed at the nearby Air Force base.

    12,000W is enough bass to power a concert venue. Ever notice that bass is louder outside a car than it is inside the car? Bass waves needs room to develop, which is why you need insane amounts of power in a car. You would need less power for the same SPL in a tractor cab.
     
  8. FLC1

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    12,000watts is because as a hobby I build extreme car audio speakers. I built my friend a pair of 6000rms 21" subwoofers which I tried to post a pic of and lost my 1000word essay on wavelength of sound and how they work lol. These comps are to turn your vehicle into a air compressor, the subwoofers are the pistons and you build up pressure in SPL - decibels. Anything over 150db is respectable. If you do 170-180db your god.
    I just said 20hz has a much longer wavelength so it caries more in the open while 1000hz wavelength is only a few inches. So 150db @20hz is actually relaxing and breath taking while 1000hz@150db can surely cause instant deafness.
    Reason your neighbors complained is simple, you guys share a wall. 15 ft apart of air , you would notice very little. Driving side by side, you just would never know.
     
  9. jbee

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    For me, I could care less about it being loud and more about it being clean. Sure there's a comparison between volume and distortion...I understand all that. I just like my lows "Low" my mids "Mid" and highs "Hi"

    Doesn't need to be a super hi end deck, but one with a decent interface and MP3 connect ability along with the needed RCA input output.

    As for speakers, separates in the form of tweeters and a mid range, connected to a decent amp and a crossover for adjustability.

    Currently looking at purchasing a Focal setup. 2 woofers, 2 mid range, 2 tweeter component setup and the crossover, Focal 6 ch amp and a Pioneer dash unit with an Axxess steering wheel interface.
     
  10. Lucar

    Lucar Road Train Member

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    Our trucks are not designed for any definition of sounds In cab.
    We don't pull trailers with mercedez'
    You need good power; why? To go deaf? No.
    Because your radio plays its best sound at mid high volume, not up to the max. So when your playing your high power high wattage stereo and you raise the volume halfway, you'll get the best definition of sound. Now every radio/stereo/headunit/receiver is different.
    A 200-500 watt amp can power enough bass, yes. While heating up your cab and sucking the juice from your batteries like your engine sucking diesel going up on magic mountain Heavy.
    A bigger amplifier (specially a class D) will work with less effort, give cleaner, better tunes and work cooler.
    You get what you pay for, whether it's a plane or just a car stereo.
     
  11. fortycalglock

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    Comparing a home systems power to car audio is silly.

    You would need far more power and subwoofers to create the same SPL in a semi-truck vs a car due to pressuring the volume of air. On top of that, the sleeper would flex quite a bit and the cabs are far from from air tight. If it was all about wavelength you wouldn't see external reinforcement and inch thick screwed in windshields.
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    This is the the Grandma of SPL's Bronco RIP!
    Old school IASCA judge and MECP installer here. I've judged Finals winning cars and helped with design of one as well, back in the day.

    OP, the reason there isn't a manufacturer doing this is it is a very broad market with a lot of variables. When you couple that with low pay, fear of loss, theft, etc it minimizes your customer base. Your target audience should be o/o and l/p drivers. They are the ones with money. Good luck.
     
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