Hot shot trucks!

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by parker08, Jul 10, 2014.

  1. Jul 10, 2014 #1
    parker08

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    I am starting up hauling in the oilfield and I'm quite torn between two trucks. Dodge 5500 and Ford F750. Same exact engin (6.7L), the ford has GVWR of 26000, with 21000 on the rear axel. 10,000lb on the front axel. It's 2010 manual, which means no DEF, and it only has 12000 miles on it and it's a real nice cab and chasis and I could but it cheaper than a dodge. The guy at the dealership keeps saying, at the end of the day, the dodge is a pickup and the ford is a medium TRUCK. He really emphasized the inceased durability of the ford going down crappy oilfield roads. Not to mention the ford has air ride seat, air brakes, and air ride. I test drove a 4500 last week and that thing was the roughest ride I've ever felt so I imagine the 5500 would be pretty much the same. In fact the first guy who bought it only lasted 200 miles before he traded it back in! HAHA. Any input otherwise guys?

    I would go with PJ trailer for the Dodge but what trailer for the Ford? If I got a proper semi flatbed, the thing is so high off the ground, how would you get equipment onto the trailer, like a forklift or tractor? I would like to get a lowboy but there's a #### load of raised cattle guards around here and I don't think that it would clear some of them. That's my drawback about the ford but I guess I could always pull a PJ with it but then it would be overkill wouldn't it? Thanks in advance for the info!
     
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  3. Jul 10, 2014 #2
    cnsper

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    The Ford will probably be geared better and have a better transmission. The rear axle weight on the Dodge is 13500. We just sold ours so I know it well. As for trailers you can get stepdecks with 17.5 tires that put you closer to the ground or even a stepdeck with a dovetail. I know people that have used the 5500 and 550's and they all say that they get about 2 years out of them.
     
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  4. Jul 10, 2014 #3
    Nedrudt

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    I would go with the ford. Same engines so that cancels out. One thing not to many people really talk about with the hotshot trucks is the seats. Once you get on one of these bouncy wavy roads your back will be screaming. Trailer wise, a 40' flatbed gooseneck would be perfect for either truck. And no not overkill at all with the ford. There's a guy in Louisiana pulling a 40' with a freightliner cabover.
     
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  5. Jul 11, 2014 #4
    parker08

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    10-4 fellas thanks! To make things easy I think I'm gonna go with the ford and PJ with 15k axels and a hydrolic dovetail.
     
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  7. Jul 11, 2014 #5
    Nedrudt

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    Skip the hydro dove, adds to much weight and not much use. I would though get air ride. Comes in handy with other loads.
     
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  8. Jul 13, 2014 #6
    kmp

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    can a driver who has not been in truck since 2008 get a oilfield hotshot job with 1 ton truck?is that to much time out of truck?
     
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  9. Jul 16, 2014 #7
    EducatedTrucker

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    wouldn't you still need a cdl though?
     
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  10. Jul 18, 2014 #8
    Grindem

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    The insurance rates for covering your truck, trailer and cargo could go from a modest 6400 per year to 7800 per year.....unless you can show previous class A driving Within the last two years. Also a new law states that you must join a random testing (drug consortium) and you must carry your qualifying work history along with your drug test results from the consortium ....in your truck before hitting the road. I live near Dallas so my ins rates are a little higher than yours for the million coverage that is industry standard .
     
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  11. Jul 18, 2014 #9
    Grindem

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    If the oilfield is willing to deal with the FMCSA and you run under their lease authority,....... then Oilfield industry is exempt from the 2004 law passed from needing to have a pre-prescribed length of verifiable class A driving experience before hire.
     
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  12. Jul 18, 2014 #10
    Grindem

    Grindem Light Load Member

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    Yes . If your truck , trailer and cargo exceeds 24,000 pounds .Get the class A.
    The insurance carrier will not pay out on a claim if you say 24 limit (non Commercial)going the cheap way out./// and then get in a accident hauling commercial and being well above
    24000 limit-and working-for hire found under the patrol cars investigation results. Then you pay even if it's the other guys fault.
     
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