PM Service

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by russmustar, Jul 12, 2014.

  1. russmustar

    russmustar Bobtail Member

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    Hello Drivers-Fairly new to this forum, and would like to get some feedback. What, exactly does a proper PM cover? Do certain shops have varying types of what they consider PM's? I drive for a local company here in MI and we have no mechanics, so we farm out our repairs to a national chain of truck repair shops who shall remain nameless. We have older trucks, none newer than 2007, and it always seems we have numerous trucks in the shop. After picking up my assigned truck from PM service, and checking it over, in 3 days, they managed to change oil and filters, install 2 new wiper blades, and lube some of the fittings, some of them were done with "magic grease" that must find it's way by itself into the grease fitting from the gobs left outside. Some of the fittings not serviced weren't even under the truck. By the way, the A/C was to be repaired, but it still fails to work. I've been told by some of these "mechanics" that "We're tired of working on your companies junk!" This service is based out of Columbus, OH. Any advice???? THX in advance-Russ
     
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  3. VagabondTrucker

    VagabondTrucker Light Load Member

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    Does it start with a S, a R, or a P?
     
  4. russmustar

    russmustar Bobtail Member

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    No, more toward the end of the alphabet, starts with w
     
  5. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    Seriously, a PM is more than just lube, oil and filters. (fuel and oil, 2 each on my Freightliner) The mechanics are supposed to check a list of items, a long list. Belts and hoses. Brakes and air lines. Suspension, air system, lighting, and more. Much more. A good shop actually will go thru this list, actually inspect these items - they're going to try and sell you stuff, so watch for that, make them show you. But if they show you stuff you need fixed, they're doing a good job for you. I think those guys who said they don't like working on your company's equipment gave you a hint. It might mean they're not getting paid to do a professional PM, that the company is only after lube, oil, and filters. In my little world, a good shop is right up there near the top of the list of what I call important.
     
  6. russmustar

    russmustar Bobtail Member

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    THX-It's not really all their fault, in efforts to save $, our safety/maintainance boss I beleive tells them what to fix and what not to fix. It just really ticks me off when it's a safety issue.
     
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  7. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    You can't blame the mechanics, if your company is not willing to pay for what is needed. Sounds like it might be time to start looking for another job.
     
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  8. russmustar

    russmustar Bobtail Member

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    Yeah, I know a new job might be better, but kinda stuck as I'm only allowed to run within MI, as my insulin waiver states and 60yrs young, it wouldn't be easy. Just curious, how can the shop release the truck to a driver knowing that it has safety issues? Doesn't that make them liable if an accident occurs? I know, the answer is "Quit, if you don't like it!!", but I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place, and jobs here in MI are not easy to find in my situation. Again, tanks for the replies. Russ
     
  9. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    That depends. You would think they would be, however a lawyer would have to prove that they knew the truck had safety issues. I believe they could get around that, a couple of different ways.
    The first way is them not documenting anything, and lying their butts off about it if anything happens. The second way is just the opposite, by documenting the hell out of everything including documenting that they notified whoever picked up the truck, in writing, that the truck was not safe to drive.
    No way can the shop "hold the truck hostage," because the company won't authorize work on it. The only way they could do that, would be if the company did authorize the work, then did not pay for it.
    This does not go back on the mechanics or the shop, it goes back on the management of the company. AND it goes back on the driver! If YOU, as the driver, know that the truck is unsafe, but you chose to drive it anyway, guess what. . .YOU are gonna be the goat if there is a problem.
    Is your job worth your life, or the life of someone else? I guess only you can decide. It does sound like you are stuck between a rock and a hard place, but we all have tough decisions that we have to make.
     
  10. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    RussMuss, Big Don is right on this. It is time to start looking, if you haven't already. One other thing, and I think this is critical. Your CDL, your CSA file, and your work history are your own responsibility, not the mechanics, not the company's. So, never drive a rig that you know has violations aboard. That is crazy. And, don't let anybody tell you to drive an unsafe or non-compliant truck. It's not only irresponsible, unsafe, and risky, it also makes us all look bad, and you don't even know us! My $.02.
     
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  11. Truck Smarter

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    Well this opens an interesting topic. We call them P.M. s. So what is it? In many fleets it is a "PLANNED Maintenance" in other words change the oil and filters and grease it. Close your eyes and get it out the door. Or is it "Preventive Maintenance" ? We take a pro active approach and actually LOOK for things that might be waiting to fall off. I will tell you that in my experience most places run the former not the latter because of cost. They think they are saving money by putting off fixing things until they actually break. Like that u-joint that let go and now we can replace all the air lines, air tanks, drive shaft and the u-joint. But we saved money. Didn't we?
     
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