First of all, I am not a truck driver (yet), but my two sons recently got their cdl's and started driving together as a team. They have been driving together on their own since the last week of March 2008. So far, they have no complaints about their company except for one area, and that is dispatch times. Maybe this is normal for all companies, and if so, I guess they will just have to find a way to deal with it, but if not, I'm curious about how they should handle the problem.
The problem is, they receive their load assignment with a pickup and delivery time, but sometimes the delivery time is nearly impossible to make, you would need perfect weather conditions, no traffic jams, etc... to be able to make the deadline, but in today's case, they were supposed to pick up a load at 4 AM Pacific Time but the load wasn't ready until 7 AM PST, however, their delivery time was not pushed back to compensate for the delay. One of the other drivers at the yard told them to make sure they got their paperwork time stamped as they were leaving the yard so they would have a record of the actual time that they left and then to send a message to their dispatcher letting her know about the delay and the need for additional time, which they did, however, she only gave them 45 minutes additional, not 3 hours. So now, in order to deliver this load on time, they would have to drive 55 mph non-stop. They are in Santa Fe Springs, Ca delivering to Renton, Wa so I know the speed limit in Ca is 55, and of course there is traffic and mountains that must be dealt with, along with at least one fuel stop and a bathroom break. My point is that this delivery time is not possible.
What do you veteran drivers do in a situation like this? I know they don't want to step on anyone's toes or get on someone's bad side, but they also don't want to get a service failure for something out of their control.
Oh yeah, two hours into their trip, they got a message on the qualcomm saying they are on the late board and wanting to know if they are ok? The message was sent by their team leader or something like that. Anyway, they messaged back restating all the facts and letting him know that they had informed the dispatcher of the 3 hour delay and their request for a later delivery time. Don't know if they've gotten a reply back from him yet.
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Proper Way to Handle Dispatch Problems?
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by CflTeam, Apr 24, 2008.
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If their in Ca headed to Wa --Ca and Or are 55mph states..plus OR
does NOT like truckers and will probably get stopped at all the scales
and maybe a DOT inspection (more delays) all that can be said is to
Communicate with dispatch via qcomm ( always qcomm -leaves a trail )
often. Not really anything new here, most all co. have same problems like this. Tell them to C.Y.A.....
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Well, apparently dispatch is now giving them an additional hour and a half, still not enough to make it on time. They have been doing all the messaging on the qualcomm so at least they are covered that way. Their fleet manager sent them another message wanting to know why they had only gone 100 miles in 4 hours. Again, she isn't starting the clock from when they actually left the yard, they had to go fuel up, said it took 20 minutes just to wait on the fuel island, then had to fill up, check the fluids, oil was low, had to add oil, etc etc, took them 45 minutes total there, got driving and was in a traffic jam, bumper to bumper, they only went 19 miles in one hour. Apparently she doesn't believe them. Not sure why, as they have had no service failures on their record yet and have been doing a great job up to this point. Now she sent them a message asking them to call her, so we'll see how this goes. Hopefully they will be able to explain to her, although if this is her job, why doesn't she already know this stuff? In what world can you drive 55 mph non-stop for 23 hours?
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They need to give dispatch a delivery time they know they can make(via qualcom) and tell them that is when they will be there! and they had better change the delevery time. If they don't change it at least they can't be charged with a service faliure.
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We face this issue time and time again and it is very frustrating. Our company will still show us late, however if the delay was caused by the shipper it will be billed that way and not counted against us. However if you are delayed by traffic, construction, etc. the driver eats the lates. We are often dispatched on runs with impossible delivery times and all you can do is document it on the Qualcomm and do the best you can.
The best advise I have ever been given from veteran drivers is this: If you lose your job because of delivering late you will have the keys to a new truck in your hands in 3 days time. If you lose your job because you wrecked your truck trying to deliver on time you may never get another decent driving job. -
It just doesn't make sense that you get dispatched with an impossible to meet delivery time! The boys main concern is that they are trying to keep their driving record in perfect shape so that in the event they ever want to switch companies, they will be able to do so with no bad marks against them. I don't know anything about the industry, so I don't know if a late delivery is just something that is kept in private company records or if that is something that is shown on your DAC record?
Anyway, they finally got a message on the qualcomm asking them to call their fleet manager which is also frustrating, one of them is driving, the other one is in the sleeper trying to sleep before he has to start driving and they've got all these messages coming in on the qualcomm that have to be replied to, obviously the one driving can't be using the qualcomm so the one who is supposed to be sleeping is having to reply. Then the message to call, so they call and wait on hold for about a half an hour, discuss with the fleet manager what has happened up to that point, and that the delivery time is impossible to make. She says that it is a "just in time" load and she knows that they are being dispatched tight but to do their best and keep in communication via qualcomm, if they have any unexpected delays to report them immediately. She asked when they thought they could get their and my son told her that if you took the remaining miles and divided it by 52 mph that it would be 6:30 AM, but that that didn't account for another fuel stop, bathroom break, driver switch, weigh station, traffic, mountains, etc. She said fine, she would put their delivery time at 6:30 then. So...I guess she still doesn't get it! Anyway, they'll just do their best and the load will get there when it gets there and we'll see what happens when it's late. They will keep her informed of any stops they make between now and then.
K&J, can you explain more about how if you're late, it shows, but if it's caused by a shipper, it's not charged against you? Where does it show as late? Is it just put in a computer, marked as late, but an explanation of shipper delay? Sorry, just don't understand how all this stuff works. Does that not count against you then, no matter how many times you may be late due to a shipper problem? I guess I'm just trying to figure out if the boys are stressing too much about this load and trying to be on time.
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Its different with each company but typically doesn't show on a DAC unless your fired for it. Your son would have to talk to someone in his company to find out how late deliveries effect him. It may have to do with bonuses, customer service awards, which trucks get which loads, etc. I know generally speaking, the drivers that have reputations for getting loads delivered on time are the go to guys for that dispatcher.
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I'm going out on a limb. And say your 2 boys drive for the wonderful Conway Truckload Division...based out of wonderful downtown Joplin, MO.
If that's the case. The "late" board is an automated system, that tracks the truck using the clock and remaining mileage to the stop. Their unit shows up on one of the big boards in the "war room" for all to see. And it's highlighted in red, so it stands out among other things that may be on that board.
In the past, CFI/Conway dispatched trucks out at 52mph on these runs. If they can not get the dispatcher or team leader to adjust the time. They will remain on the "late" board for the duration of the load. Any malfunction will put them on the late board.
How they handle these things now, is beyond me. I left them over a year ago, before the buy out. -
That is their company, and like I said before, they're totally happy except for those Conway loads that are "just in time" and you never seem to get "enough" time to deliver them. The load that I was posting about was supposed to be delivered at 6:30 AM and they finally got it there at 8:30 AM. My son said the person he dealt with there was really nice and my son handed him the paperwork and apologized for being late, and the guy said "No problem, man, you're not late" and he marked on time delivery on the paperwork.....Not sure what all the hoopla was about with the delivery times. I asked the boys if anything was said to them about being late and they said no. Maybe it shows up somewhere that they're not aware of, but they're over it and tired of worrying about it. They did their best and that's all they can do.
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I know the run you're talking about. I done the same one last winter with my co-driver several times. We were late coming out due to 3 reloads (weight issues).
That particular run, we were the ONLY truck that made it within 2 hours of the appointed time. The others were stuck on the slick side of the mountain all night.
We got very lucky on that trip. I-5 was shut down within minutes of us passing Siskiyou.
If they have the bills re stamped before they leave, then stamped at the other end as on time. There should be no issues.
And, not to be the bearer of bad news. They'll have to push as hard as they feel comfortable and take very few, if any breaks. Other than fuel.
It can be done. But they'll risk their CDL while in CA almost every time. Especially since they are starting to enforce the 3 mph tolerance for speeding.
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