Truck Fuel Protest Planned

Discussion in 'Truckers Strike Forum' started by Cybergal, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. MommaKay

    MommaKay Light Load Member

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    You're missing the point, Yoda. It DID work here. For decades. What doesn't work is rampant greed-based "free market capitalism."
     
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  3. yoda

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    I am not missing any point, The problems caused by greed and corruption are easier solved by free men than the oppression of more government regulation and control.

    You are missing a point... our ancestors were already cognizant of and showed such by their very words.

    Quote from the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ' That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

    and none of those ancestors would have stood still for a minute for wage or price controls nor by excessive government regulation of markets.

    Seeking safety from free market capitalism with all it's faults by imposing more government controls is the answer of the communist party ( or the despot ruler) not the answer of free man!
     
  4. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Maybe a time has come to consider it. Not everything from 200 plus years ago remains the same. Corporate and individual greed has become an epidemic. Not just in the oil industry.
     
  5. peashooter

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    :biggrin_25514: Hear, hear, Yoda ! Wow,price controls,rationing,extreme taxation.Hard to belive anybody would want that. :biggrin_25521: Not I.
     
  6. yoda

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    I have to also add a different answer.

    Controls placed by the Democratic controlled government during World War 2 were allowed to happen during a world war. It took DECADES to remove the yoke of government from the American industry which in the meantime flourished in the controlled market in favor of the political donors.

    The free market also causes those same donors to flourish, but also allows NEW players to access power and wealth.

    The number of independent owner drivers before 1970 is minuscule compared to the number presently existing.

    Yes some percentage of those existing NOW are clueless in actual business operations and management, they became business owners thinking the skill that was needed was driving instead of business management. This was accelerated with the willing complicity of both the big corporations who saw an excellent way to insure their cost/profit structure by cost shifting all the volatiles and all the labor costs, and the regulators who after all only wanted the opportunity to expand their empires and budgets.

    However a strong vibrant independent business community that did not exist under the regulated controlled market of the socialistic WW2 era Democratic controlled government does now exist and can given freedom to do so survive.

    Calls to go BACK to socialism, government handouts universal medical care etc are not calls to improve America, they are calls to move America into the modern ( progressive) socialist dream world where the ruling elite will guarantee to all the masses a subsistence living while they ( the ruling elite) continue their lifestyle as rulers. The failure of "welfare" to end poverty is proof enough for most Americans that socialism is a tool of the elite to dupe the masses into giving them more and more power and control.

    I say again there are agendas at play in many posts here that have little to do with trucking or truckers except as a tool to enhance some persons chances of being elected at the next general election. Strikes and food riots etc between now and election day serve to strengthen the chances of some candidates to actually take control of our country and attempt to rule "to make changes that will be better for all of us"..... yeah right!
     
  7. BigDiesel

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    As stated in the movie " Wall Street " by the great Gordon Gekko.......


    GREED IS GOOD !!!!

    GREED IS RIGHT !!!
     
  8. MommaKay

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    "I have plenty of food to eat and a roof over my head. If you don't, you can go pound sand." Nope not quoting you or anyone in particular. But it does seem to be the attitude being espoused.

    For some reason, I find little pathos in that attitude, and it's not one I wish to adopt. I could also say that the failure of "free market capitalism" to end poverty is "proof enough for most Americans that 'free market capitalism' is a tool of the elite to dupe the masses into giving them more and more power and control." All depends upon whose stomach is distended from famine. I cannot help but suspect that if said stomach were your own, you'd be singing a different tune.
     
  9. BigDiesel

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    I run my company to make the most money I possibly can, to provide a very comfortable living for myself and my family. I am greedy and like nice things and so does my wife. So if that makes us " evil " in the eyes of a socialist's ,then we are evil then.....
     
  10. goin2fast10

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    You could say it yes, but since the facts don't support it, you would be saying wrong.

    The facts are "LBJ's war on poverty" (ie) welfare failed miserably.
    "give a man a fish and he will eat a meal, teach a man how to fish he will eat for a life time". Quite simple.

    We have been giving to the rest of the world for years and years and years, and they still want more....if we had taught them to be productive....but the collective conscience of those who think(?) they know best how to spend other people's money refuse to let people fend for themselves and it creates a cycle of dependency, just like our welfare state.

    Marxism, if you will read Karl Marx's communist manifesto is precisely what some of the elite in this country are leaning towards with their promises to do this,that and the other. None of which is in the constitution. But is in the afore mentioned "communist manifesto" almost verbatim.

    Marxism, socialism and communism have all failed miserably. However, our capitalist/free market has reigned supreme for over 200 years.
    And there is no such thing as "free". Everything has a price. Anytime the elite politicians pander to those who have less, someone has to pay.

    You can spin it any way you like....but 2+2 has to equal 4 or it won't work.
     
  11. goin2fast10

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    Excellent post!
     
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