Stop Temporary Foreign Workers

Trucking management has taken full advantage of the mass exodus of manufacturing jobs being transferred over seas had unemployment not been so high,there wouldn't be and endless pool of hiring candidates to run through the mass driver mills.
Trucking has had no problem absorbing astronomical fuel cost, or EPA mandated regs.,yet have kept wages down below pre 1990 levels.

 

Do you always base your opinions on assumptions rather than getting the facts first?. You "figured" that the $450/day was based on 14 hours (the length of the day was never mentioned) and now you "figure" that the work takes place in an isolated area (the exact location of the work was never mentioned).

 

Common sense, not assumptions.

I have been driving too long to assume that a job with 5 on 5 off rotation would be less than a 14 hour day that would eat up the allowable 70 in a 5 day period. Otherwise what would be the need to have a second driver come in for 5 day stint. If the first driver were not maxing out his hours then there would be no need to employ a second driver and incur added benefits and other source deductions.

You could try and say "how do you know that two drivers share a truck"?
My response again would come from common sense through experience.
"Do you think anyone in this business will allow a truck to sit for 5 days?......not likely."

If the work didn't take place in a remote area there would be no need to have a 5 and 5 schedule. A simple reset would suffice. Who would reset in a barren wasteland? At somepoint the driver wants to go home or get out of the patch.

So to add to how I feel this job would be worthless based on the pay lets say that to "go to work" takes a day and "to leave work" takes a day. Your 5 days off is now reduced to 3. Travelling in and out is worth money to a driver.....its a task that has value.

Again, if the poster was "legit" enough details would have been offered so there would be no debates on the value of the job. Once again as an experienced driver......if I have to play 20 questions, the job most likely is a bust.

Since we haven't heard back from the original poster we can either assume the job was BS or the job isn't worth BS.
You are free to take your pick.

 

My best days I come in under 700.

So......no.......I wouldn't complain one bit about 800 or 900.

Again. Its funny how drivers always call other drivers whiners and complainers when it comes to wages yet I have failed to meet an owner of a company who thought that trucking companies are making an adequate amount of money, they always want more........so why shouldn't drivers?

tfws are being used to keep wages low and have guys like you thinking that great wages are a thing of the past.

 

Nail on the head

 

OOOOooooooh.......you ever get tired of being wrong?

We are guaranteed a 9 hour day.
So if we do a unit move in 3 hours... ..we go home...or we can go do another unit move and be paid for another full 9 hours.

If you're on a unit move crew......you work. The faster the work gets done the better. We only hold onto the drivers who hustle and can do the job.

"Permits" are workers who aren't in the union yet. They get paid the EXACT SAME WAGE as guys who have worked here for years. They have no reason not to work just as hard yet we go through drivers by the dozen. There's lots of drivers who are lazy and don't want to work as fast as we do. We help them, hold their hands hoping we can get them up to speed as a productive union member. If we train them well and they learn well.... we'll have a guy who contributes to our bottom line.

When a guy gets older and slows down or gets injured they move into driving show cars and chauffering actors, directors, producers around town. We take care of the guys who work. If you don't hustle you won't make it here..... period.

There is zero space here for lazy drivers.
Most unionised shops anywhere in driving don't keep guys who don't hustle.

Companies with ###### wages and no unions get those guys AND I STILL THINK THAT THOSE GUYS ARE WORTH MORE THAN THEY'RE GETTING PAID.

 

I almost forgot.

They (permits) do not pay union dues until they're in the union. They also get a paid lunch period just like us......we also provide them with that lunch at no cost.

So technically......they make more money per hour than the union guys do.

Kinda hard to slam a union that lets you reap the benefits of great pay all the while charging you nothing.

 

Is this where you got your years of experience in how the oil patch works?, hauling around movie sets?.

 

I have been around long enough to know how this industry works.
Whether its oilpatch, longhaul or pretty much any other aspect of this industry works.

As for my comments on the oilpatch, well it must be pretty accurate. The original poster hasn't surfaced to refute anything I've said.

As for me ############ about my pay and job. Its a real job that most guys know about. So whether or not Iam telling the truth is beside the point. Its a job that you can compare what would be considered good pay vs poor pay.

As now seeing that neither one of you have any legitimate points to argue I can safely assume that the conversation is over and I've gotten my point across.

 

Logic. 450 on a 5 on 5 off shift is roughly 81000 per year. The shift isn't for everyone but I do know a lot of guys who like the balance of time off and and better than average trucking wage. Anyone who knows anything about this type of shift knows these jobs are for local hauling. For someone who wants to be home everynight. These shifts are not offered in the remote places. Hauling video equipment for low budget porno movies probably comes close to 450, but I doubt it. It's not enough to relocate from prosperous Ontario but for a local driver it's decent money.