Actually, Vic, the reason Conway didn't report on four terminals voting to go union was deliberate;
Simply for the fact that the unions are a very real threat that can deeply influence corporate worth in the business world. God forbid that a trend is in the works. State lawsuits, serious as they are, are still nowhere near the threat of a union influence.
That being said, I will respect your thread and will post elsewhere.
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Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Victor_V, Nov 3, 2014.
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Surfer Joe, you're always welcome in any thread I post. Any thread. Not trying to run you off. The shoes haven't dropped yet on how this billion dollar outfit Con-way responds to those 4 terminals.
This thread is whether we're approaching a tipping point with Swift, USXpress, Con-way and Heartland/GTI pay increases (especially the detention after 1 hour) and this major settlement announced right on the heels of all that.
Like chunks falling and pulled out of the Berlin Wall--maybe. Dunno.
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Roger that!
Anyone can actually have the opportunity to "relieve themselves" on the Berlin Wall:
In Las Vegas, at a downtown casino known as Main Street Station, in the men's restroom, the casino owner obtained an actual piece of the Berlin Wall; strategically placed along the urinals.
It is even complete with all the original, preserved, graffiti.
I hear some joker actually wrote derogatory remarks against Conway on this invaluable piece of nostalgia.
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You guys want to know something ...
it is great that you wish for things to be better but we work in an industry that is highly competitive, drivers are cheap because they are just all over the place and if you wish for more government regulations to stop things like having shippers pay for you waiting or to force those companies to pay you more, you may get what you wish for and then you will see companies being more demanding about your driving record, more demanding about servicing the customer and more quick to fire people and get them out of the industry.
You can forget that freedom thing quickly, because once the government and courts are involved, you are screwed.
If you want better wages, reduce the crap that we have with some of these driver, make it harder to get licensed, force the industry to come up and maintain standards that filter out poor drivers, or drivers who won't want to work. Reducing the supply will drive up the wage, force these companies to be less open to take anyone and then things may get better.
ALSO if you want to fix some things with regulations, then lets return to the ICC regulations where being a carrier was more than just what it is today, lets get back to published rates that have to be submitted to the feds, to limiting regulations so not just any one can get an authority and this may help with reducing that competition so those mean shippers won't shop around for a truck.
Well a couple things there surfer dude,
1 - the ATC people should have been fired and never ever allowed to go back to their jobs. When they were hired, there was one thing that they did that no one speaks about, they agreed to never ever to strike and if they did, they could be terminated, that president held out for a bit and then took that option of firing them. Blaming him for something that they agreed on is to me a cop out. I understood their working conditions but no one forced them to be ATC ... did they??
2 - the unions screwed themselves in the 60's when we have a great big growth spurt, they put a lot of demands on companies and people lost their jobs and opportunities later on. You may notice today, no one really cares about unions like they may have in 1954. But the thing is if we look at public sector (public servants), those unions have screwed the people of cities and states in the long run.
Here are a couple of corrections for you surfer dude.
1 - the US labor force, excluding public servants (who should never ever been allowed to be in unions) at the peak in 1954, was .... a little over 34% (source - Teamsters). At that time was the best time for the unions but ... now as of this year 7.8% of the private sector employees are represented by unions - (source - Teamsters). We have never ever seen more than that 34% in unions, even when we had peak employment in 1965/66.
2 - the middle class wasn't and will never be the union/labor class. The middle class are the workers who are educated and are mobile, some are in unions but not labor. The labor class has been elevated to be equal to the middle class.Last edited: Nov 3, 2014
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I lived in California in the early 70's. It was a great place to live back then and the cost of living was reasonable. I used to go to Union City on a regular basis. I remember a guy who usually unloaded my truck. I think he was making about $16/hour. He owned a small house that was valued in the six figures. I don't see how he did it.
The problem in California is not the wages but the high taxes. The taxes and some of the idiotic over regulation has made it difficult for the average worker to live. Property taxes are out of control. Things are not likely to change until the people of the state decide that they have had enough and run those nut cases out of office and get some sanity back into their government. I really hate to see how things are in the state today compared to when I lived in the state. As long as California continues with their out of control spending, workers will never be able to earn enough to stay ahead of the state spending.
My guess with these lawsuits is that the companies will move toward more outside carriers or owner operators rather than deal with the state and unions. Wage laws won't be an issue with either of them and unions won't organize owner operators. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. -
GMAN, could you please just go away from this thread? You are way off topic & what you are posting is simply not true.
This link will show you that California is ranked 17th out of all states in total taxes; http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/total_taxes/
You could not be more wrong about property taxes. Here is a link for that; http://www.tax-rates.org/taxtables/property-tax-by-state
And be forewarned I'm not going to reply to anything else you post in this thread. If I wanted to take on a pointless lifelong project, I would try to correct every piece of misinformation you post on the internet. Kevin Rutherford gets it right more often than you do & that's scary.
BTW, nice thread Victor. I'll have more (on topic) to say after I figure out who put the LSD in my breakfast cereal. (Somebody did something if I'm agreeing with you) -
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Can you point us to the right info, thats' about personal property and personal income taxes, which has nothing to do with business taxes and fees derived from business in the form of a tax.G/MAN Thanks this.
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Surfer Joe, Con-way actually does say something about unions in its 10-Q and I just noticed about a half-hour ago. Con-way states that its employees and affiliates are all non-union.
For real:
Double Yellow was upset Con-way didn't somehow address the 4 terminals in its 10-Q and he'll be doubly upset about this.
//Edit: I'm slightly mistaken here. The above is from Con-way Annual Report 2013 on form 10-Q http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/edgar_conv_html/2014/02/25/0000023675-14-000011.html#FIS_BUSINESS not the latest; in the current 10-Q under 'Risk Factors' Con-way states there are no material changes since 2013 Annual Report.Last edited: Nov 4, 2014
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