Is BIA 14 the most expensive road in the world?

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  1. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    It's an absolutely outrageous 10 miles of road on the "Indian" reservation in North Dakota, I drive it all the time. This is no lease road, it's a major heavy truck artery running between two paved roads, Rt 22 and BIA 12.

    The costs in terms of man hours driving that thing as well as wear and tear on equipment must be astronomical, far more expensive than keep road graders running out there or actually paving the thing.

    I just think this is a good topic for a major rant. I hear rumors, this and that, but does anyone know the true story behind this lunacy?
     
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  3. bulldog72

    bulldog72 Bobtail Member

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    My roommate hauls oil and he called the boss the other day to let him know about BIA 14. Ive hauled water on it numerous times and was not impressed. We actually had a driver come off that road the other day with a swollen neck after hitting a pot hole in the dark. Sad thing is that if you refuse a load up there you won't get any other work. The major companies out here won't send their trucks but they are more than happy to send their sub contractors.
     
  4. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    The thing is, I'm not fooled. It's not a lease road, it's a major truck route. It would be cheaper for everyone involved if they'd do something with it- I've been on it several weeks and haven't seen a grader! I'm just curious where the "major stupid" lies- the "Indians"? The state or local governments? The oil companies?

    Well, maybe if they paved it the rates would be lower. As it is, I can rough it in somebody else's equipment as long as the money is right. Still ridiculous, though.
     
  5. TLeaHeart

    TLeaHeart Road Train Member

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    Bia road, equals private road owned by the indian reservation. The reservation has NO incentive to maintain or upgrade the road, and the trucking companies like using a "free" road. Now if the Reservation wanted to they could close the road, and then charge to use the road.
     
  6. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    There is big money being made with that road, there is incentive. Certainly the "indians" are getting a cut. The indians are already charging to use the road, it's called an expensive permit. Everyone has an interest in seeing that road maintained: the drivers taking the pounding and wasting time; the companies and O/Os paying for the equipment; the fracking companies that need their water and sand; the indians who want to keep that money rolling in.

    But, what a difference a day makes! The rain shut down production, but then the road quickly dried up. Suddenly, there is road repair equipment running up and down the road. Maybe that's what it takes, the fracking coming to a halt. The impossible becomes possible.
     
  7. chaz7r

    chaz7r Light Load Member

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    Anyone been down this road lately? Has the construction improved conditions any? Hate traveling on 14 and 17
     
  8. Lucar

    Lucar Road Train Member

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    Shoot and here I sat thinking I-76 in PA is a joke. $176 to run it through..
    And they wont let you leave without paying, so be prepared. .
     
  9. rabbiporkchop

    rabbiporkchop Road Train Member

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    I made more money on BIA 14 than I did running on interstate 76 but there is more money to be made off of the reservation in hauling water but there is good money to be made on the reservation hauling crude
     
  10. bryann

    bryann Bobtail Member

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    most expensive road in the world, i think yes
     
  11. PaulE

    PaulE Medium Load Member

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    BIA 14 is paved now. in time all roads on Rez will be paved. . rumor says 17 loop is next
     
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