Who is liable?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by rearview, Nov 22, 2014.

  1. GOV'T_Trucker

    GOV'T_Trucker Heavy Load Member

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    Rearview - Don't you get it...REAL WORLD is that the TRUCKER is to blame for the FAILURE.... That my friend is the REAL WORLD....

    It doesn't matter if the whole industry works like that or if the DOT turns a blind eye to it.. When push comes to shove and that bin dumps the driver will be the one too blame... The farmer didn't make you not secure the load, your company didn't make you not secure the load and DOT sure as hell didn't tell you not to secure the load.. If you choose not secure the load because that is what the "industry" generally dictates that's your choice for following everyone else.. Just because 100 drivers don't secure the load, doesn't mean you have to be the person following those 100 drivers.. Don't care about what others are doing.. Care about what you yourself are doing and your licence...
     
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  3. *Five-0*

    *Five-0* Light Load Member

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    The question I have is 'Has there been a rash of inadvertent grape-bin dumping that elicited the original question in this thread?'
     
  4. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    Sorry! I have to ask? Your profile says you been trucking for 42 years? And you don't know who would be responsible ? Just asking
     
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  5. n3ss

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    I think he just wants someone to tell him that it's not his fault, or he's not responsible for the loads he hauls.
     
  6. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    OK? It's not his fault :biggrin_25524:
     
  7. Sik_Life

    Sik_Life Medium Load Member

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    We have a winner. Of course this is just a forum. In the real world it's still his fault lol.
     
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  8. rearview

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    I have 42 years with one accident that involved being rear ended while I was cruising at 75 MPH and car leaving the scene after hitting me. I was looking at the bigger picture in this.

    The rules are the rules, yep the driver is at fault. The system, just like in a lot of trucking is, there are the rules and what really happens. Just like the freight haulers that pull off the dock when they are out of hours and drive to the truck stop.

    People don't refuse the loads because there are no straps available. That is real world. Sure they should, but they don't. Why would they when the system is and has always worked this way.

    If I am running down the road and pull into multiple scalehouses with one chain per 10 ton steel roll, or two straps on a unit of twenty foot pine beams what are the odds of me actually making it out to the road without a red light.
     
  9. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    No straps available? Uh in the real world truckers bring their own straps to secure a load.

    So is your question the original one you asked or are you just complaining that the scales aren't catching guys with improperly secured loads?

    There is more to this story or whatever it is. Maybe you should just lay it all out and you could get the answer you're looking for.
     
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  10. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    DOT never looks at produce trucks coming from the field to the packing plant. At least not in Arizona. DOT will drive past a field truck on I-8 with parts falling off, no lights, nothing but a 1/4 twine holding palletized boxes of lettuce on the trailer just to pull over a reefer with no apparent issues. As far as liability, how bad would someone be hurt if a tub of grapes spill on the road?
     
  11. Jumbo

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    The question was answered in the first response and this has drug on for 3 pages? If you want them secured better throw a $12 2" strap over each set and hit the highway. And if you want to change the grape hauling industry then stop in a scale and point it out to them.
     
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