Fmcsa in 2015

And where do you plan on taking a couple more hours to get it to 8 for a split? Most places I, and a majority of others, go won't allow us to remain on the property once we're finished loading or unloading. What then?

 

Elogs apply to all areas of the industry not only jit. Most of my loads are next day deliveries, and I would say about 80% of the time I am at my consignee the night before delivery.

 

And its biased such as yours that has assisted in reducing the industry to what it is. Comments such as mine are driven by individuals such as yourself. When you are constantly berated because your lack of experience, and then constantly disrespected due to lack of experience, individuals such as myself refuse to listen to individuals with such a narrow outlook on the future of the industry. We are constantly told to stay out of it, that our lack of experience means we dont have a dog in the hunt, when most times we are commenting on things that we pick up on from others or places with horrible reputations on subject matter. If more experienced drivers like yourself and Grumpy or others would drop your attitudes at the onslought of conversation and loose your biased outlook, individuals such as me with attitudes such as mine, would diminish rather fast. Until that time, get over it. My attitude will continue.

 

You got to make due with what you can, work the clock. If not at the consignee, or shipper, then on the street, local truck stop, hell ive taken my 8 split in an abandoned school parking lot. Stop making excuses, im sure if you try hard enough you can work something out.

 

As will the disdain for you from others.

"Better to be thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

 

You just proved my point. You cant even admit that you "experienced" drivers are part of the problem as much as people like me. Keep laying the blame on everyone else like those ######### in Ferguson

 

Wait just a minute. When you post something that disrespects experience drivers like your post early, it makes you the bad guy, not me! I never disrespect anybody, unless they start off like yourself, slandering "Whiney old farts" as you put it. I could care less if someone has no experience, as long as they are willing to learn from experience people. It's this way in every job, and life for that matter. Re-read your post that I originaly quoted, and tell me who started the disrespect.

I help new, inexperience drivers as much as I can, but when the economy took a dump back in 2006-2007, the industry was flooded with people looking for a job, not a career in trucking. The goverment started to dump anyone that could not get a job anywhere else into truck schools, with most of them not wanting to work doing anything in the first place. I tried to train guys all the time back then to drive for me, and let me tell you, most of them new it all! You could not train them!

I would give give them the benefit of what I thought, felt sorry for them, give th a job, only to be completely let down by their lack of work ethic. They would trash my equipment, screw my orders up, and let my customers down.

When someone like yourself comes off like you did in your original post I quoted, how can I respect that? I have to, by my experience, put you in the same category as the people I metion above.

i don't know you. Your might be a great person. But when your response is to bash experience people in this industry, the most safe drivers we have ever had, (statistics will prove that) how can anybody take you with any creditablity?

 

Oh, I don't know about that. See, when many of us started, we were taught by drivers that had been in the business for a long time, not three or four months or a year like those "teaching" today. One thing we learned was to keep our mouths shut as we could learn a lot more that way. We went through our own trials and periods of disrespect, but, and this is important, we learned from those older drivers.We learned that respect wasn't given, but earned. There was accountability and responsibility. We didn't puff up our chests and demand to be treated as equals because we weren't and we knew it and those that didn't either learned the hard way or found a different lifestyle.

You think you're our equal? Hardly. At least not where this industry is concerned. Have you done the things we've done? Have you covered the miles we've covered in the terrain and weather we've fought against? Have you hauled the type of freight we've hauled over the last quarter century?

No.

You haven't.

Does that mean you won't surpass me, someday? Nope, it sure doesn't. However; your attitude will be an obstacle rather than help you get there.

As far as laying blame (oh, and I shrugged off your attempted insult re: Ferguson, so dial the smirk down, it didn't work), I don't really blame the new drivers. Most of the blame, in my not so humble opinion, lays with the megas and the government for allowing the dregs to be considered "qualified" to be a part of this industry just to put meat in the seats. Where I lay the blame on the new drivers is with those that have a chip on their shoulder and have no desire to learn and can't see past their own selfish pride that we, the experienced have some knowledge to pass on because our ways are outdated, even though the new ways that are taught by the morons they call trainers have been proven ineffective by comparison.

So, call me names, if it makes you feel better. Throw some more limp-wrsited insults at me. I can take it, for, you see, at this point in the game, where trucking and experience is concerned, we ARE better than you and we know it and you know it, although you won't admit it because of piggish pride. You want help bettering yourself at this game? Many of us will come forward to help, but not with the attitude you throw at us. With that attitude, we'll go on our merry way, doing what we do and doing it better than you.

 

And you are assuming I was trained by a short timer? My trainer has been driving for 20 years and been with my company for 11. Has over 2million safe miles, and is in the top 10 for revenue earners in the company. Im very humbled by his teachings and still call him with questions.

So once again your biased position is incorrect.

 

And i never once said I was anyones equal. I expected a little bit of understanding that new drivers would need someone to mentor them rather than someone to #### all over us.


Im not so pride stricken to know that most people are far more experienced than I am, I know they are, Ive not been out here long enough, and I still look towards you experienced drivers for guidance. The problem is ######## such as yourself let YOUR pride get in the way and your superiority complex get the better of you and you come off as arrogant, and condescending. It does nothing for short timers such as myself in wanting to learn a god #### thing. It pisses us off that we are treated with such disdain like that, so of course we discount older drivers and look for ways to do it ourselves.